My Democracy keeps getting overthrown!! Help!

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Chieftain
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I was happy in my monarchy but decided to give democracy a chance.

After 6 turns of anarchy I went to democracy. I played around with entertainers and had all cities content although there was starvation in a few( don't remember why the starvation never ocurred in monarchy).

After 1 turn, my advisor says that the people are overthrowing my democracy.

Is it because of starvation? In no city are there more unhappy people than happy people.

And if it is the starvation( some cities have 25 or so people) what do I do? There's no point in making settlers because there is no place for a new city anywhere.

Please help me!

Thx.
 
you are adjusting the entertainers before you are tryng to go into anarchy? You need to let them settle for a few rounds before and let things get back to normal, then switch government. This is only a guess as I have never heard of this happening, it also could be that the civ you play is one that despises democracy like russia or germany. look in your manual. Like I said though, this is just a guess.
 
Are you at war? War weariness is serious during deomcracy, and it will be overthrown if you have been too long a time at war. So either make sure you are at peace with everyone or stick to republic.

It´s when things like that happen you understand just how great the religious trait is. :D
 
I've only had it happen to me once, when I let a city stay in disorder for too many turns. At least it's not near as bad as it used to be, with one city in 2 consecutive turns of disorder would send your whole civ crashing down.
 
I have never had any government collapse in civ3. I don't even know what exactly causes it. Maybe it is because my people adore me.:D
 
Maybe it's because your playing at lower diffculty leveles ? :confused:

I havent had this poroblem at all with Warlord.
 
I play monarch and emperor level. I wish I knew exactly what I was doing right so I could post it here.
 
In my experience, it's the long, drawn out wars that usually cause this (as Hurricane mentions).

From what I understand, war weariness builds up over time, and different governments collapse at different levels.

For example, your war weariness might have been about 20 in your Monarchy where it needs to be 40 for it to collapse (these numbers are all made up - I don't claim to know the exact method). However, it only takes 25 in a Democracy, so when you switched for a few turns, BAM! anarchy hits it and your government falls apart.

I think you have to be in peace for a while - I believe the numbers lessen the longer that you are in peace. I also believe that the weariness numbers collect much quicker if you are the aggressor who declared the war.

That's how I see it. I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I'm at least pretty close.
 
There is no war weariness under monarchy.
 
OK, I'm sure that's true - I don't usually play in a Monarchy.

However, I'm willing to bet that the weariness values still accumulate - it just is not felt until one changes to a government where it takes effect.
 
Yeah. That makes sense. So if you were at war for the last hundred years, and you try to switch to democracy, it could very well immediately collapse. So far, I have been smart enough not to try switching to democracy in the middle of a war, so I don't know for sure.
 
War weariness is the biggest factor I have encountered that causes riots and rebellions, especially if you are fighting against the native country of some of your citizens.

One other thing that can set your whole civilization to rioting is if you suddenly lose a couple of luxury resources. For example, lets say you traded for dyes and silks and gems, and the trades all started on the same turn. 20 turns later, no one renews those trades. Don't ignore those messages that the trades have ended, especially if you are at war.
 
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