My First Win, And Thensome...

[Hundegesicht]

Well, a week after I started to play Civilization II (I got it dirt cheap from http://www.free-cdsoftware.com/, though the s/d price was a little high... ) I finally won a game with the Germans yesterday! I ended up finishing my Space Ship in the year 1957 (after starting in '14) and finally launched it in 2001 after the Indians were getting close to finishing theirs. I had 21 nice little cities (generating almost 900 gold from capatilzation per turn) and 27 future techs with about 30,000,000 citizens. I hade a rating of 51%! I sure felt proud of myself then, yesindeedy.


Then I made the mistake of coming here and seeing the Game Timeline of some dude who had some 1,300,000,000 people in his civilization, countless cities, and a rating in the thousands.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Welcome to CFC.

Hey, everyone has to start somewhere. Congratulations on your win. Hopefully, after some time in these forums, you'll be able to bump up your score quite a bit.

Here's our Hall of Fame page so you know what your targets are for each difficulty level.

 

[funxus]

Welcome

I think that your game seems quite all right for a first win

Just make sure you have fun playing it. I know it's bit frustrating when you know there are some that are so much better than yourself, but compare with your own games instead of others.

 

[Alice]

Congratulations
I'm sure you'll learn a lot here, I know I did. I still don't even come close to the score of some of the players here, but it feels great to learn and improve with every game I play.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Thanks for the welcome, all.

I haven't been playing long but this game is already slightly more addictive than crack... oh well, It's another good reason to stay up til' 3 o' clock AM for so I'm not complaining.

 

[Hawkster]

Welcome Hundegesicht! You are now infected with the civ bug - and it never lets go...just watch out for the JOMT symptoms (Just One More Turn......).

Your first win is good - the high scores here are the result of players playing for much longer....you'll get there - especially with the tips and hints you'll find here!

 

[Terrapin]

Don't be intimidated by the big scores, sprawling cities and1,000%+ ratings people on this site post. Be intimidated by the fact that some of these people (not me!) rig their games to play Diety+ difficulty, because Diety just isn't hard enough anymore, when going for the big wins with 1,000% scores...

 

[Hundegesicht]

Deity+ levels?!?

*Begins to cry*

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

You can always play the GOTM to gague yourself with other players.

 

[ferenginar]

Welcome Hundegesicht

Don't cry, just ask questions and read all the advice you can find, I guarantee it will improve your game.

Above all, have fun

keep on civving

 

[Terrapin]

One thing I would be careful of on this thread is learning too much. A few of the advice threads give very specific advice on exactly how the ai makes decisions and exactly how certain game factors are counted and calculated. In a couple of cases, seeing the game mechanics revealed has taken some of the romance out of the game.

 

[Archer 007]

Yep, higher diffucults net higher scores.
I use to feel the same way when i first came here.

 

[Marlos]

Originally posted by Duke of Marlbrough
Here's our Hall of Fame page so you know what your targets are for each difficulty level.

It's a shame that the Civ2 HOF does not accept submissions anymore. Is it just too time-consuming to maintain it, or are there just too many submissions (or both)? Aren't there relatively fewer Civ2 players now that that waste-of-time-and-energy Civ3 is out?

 

[mardukes]

Originally posted by Terrapin
One thing I would be careful of on this thread is learning too much. A few of the advice threads give very specific advice on exactly how the ai makes decisions and exactly how certain game factors are counted and calculated. In a couple of cases, seeing the game mechanics revealed has taken some of the romance out of the game.

I second this!

And on the topic of being saddened by the record scores...
be happy that Civ is reducing the time those guys are operating motor vehicles.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Well, I'm probably going to win again tonight or tomorrow... this time I have a pop of 120,000,000 and my score about 3,000... I'll post all the details tomorrow if I win.

 

[mardukes]

Is that on a large map?

 

[Hundegesicht]

Yes.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Well, I just won for the second time!

Score: 3120

Rating: 127% (Lion-Hearted)

Population Size: 148,000,000

Cites: 51 (I noticed something strange... after building 42 cites the city names begin to repeat for some reason... weird)

future Techs: around 130.

Well, this one was a LOT better than my first. I learnt how cites work and grow in this game, and a lot about resource squares. I managed to get 2 40+ size cities (Bombay the largest at 42, Dacca 40) and 11 30+ cities... the rest were in the 20's.

By the time I launched my Space Ship in 2007 (I had completed it in 1896 and was waiting 'til the last possible moment) I had about 30,000 gold in the treasury so I boosted by Luxury tax rate to 100% and spent 20,000 gold speed-building city improvements to turn all my small cities into huge industrial giants before I retired... I managed to boost the population 30,000,000 in 10 years.

Ah well, now it's time to try the same thing, but on *King* level this time. (Watch me get my ass kicked )

 

[funxus]

Cites: 51 (I noticed something strange... after building 42 cites the city names begin to repeat for some reason... weird)

There is a list of city names for each civ in the file city.txt (or something like it). The game goes through this list for your civ, then it begins with the extras (where Naples is the first city name). When these two lists have been gone through, it restarts at the top of your civ's list.

To solve your problem, you could add some more citynames in either each civ's livsor in the Extra list.

Getting a city over 40 is good, I seldom do it. The only reason to get a city over 36 is that you want the extra pop for your score, but gamewise it's better to keep the cities 36 and under because you can only use the specialists up to 36.

 

[Hundegesicht]

Well, one was Dacca which had an encredible food supply (Two wheat specials and very fertile land) so it reached 40 naturally... the other was Bombay which was my science city... I wanted it as high as posible to boost my science output (it was 742 by the 1900's and I wanted it to get high enough to research techs at 1 a turn with science around 30) Alas, I couldn't seem to change them from Entertainers to Scientists after a certain point so I just leveled it out at 0 food surplus and size 43.