native american civ??

[Vietcong]

huh?? i think thears such a difrence between native american tribes in north america, its gunna be a lil hard to group them all together as one civ.. civ is geting realy historicly bad hear... any way i think this is just plain wrong.. if u wanted a civ that represtented north american natives, i think the irqua *what ever thear called, the guys from civ 3* or siuox*agin, how ever its spelt* whould have dont nicely..

first thing im gunna do is mod the civs name!!

 

[TheLastOne36]

guh another fight over native america.

Could we go back to the argument about HRE now?

 

[thenooblet22]

huh?? i think thears such a difrence between native american tribes in north america, its gunna be a lil hard to group them all together as one civ.. civ is geting realy historicly bad hear... any way i think this is just plain wrong.. if u wanted a civ that represtented north american natives, i think the irqua *what ever thear called, the guys from civ 3* or siuox*agin, how ever its spelt* whould have dont nicely..

first thing im gunna do is mod the civs name!!

Iroquois should be a seperate civilization hopefully. I don't actually mind 'Native American' because I know in real-time they would never actually get to represent them individually before they scrapped it all to begin work on CivV or another game.

 

[Aztec_Snoopy]

I think that civ4 probably just made a mistake cuz they probably wouldn't do that because they could add more native american civs otherwise.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Well they really could make it OK by giving the NA civ 2 Leaders from the start*
(so that with 2 Leaders they can represent a range of NA cultures through 2 different approaches, as well as having a UU/UB from different NA cultures)

*Preferably one with a significantly different personality than Sitting Bull
Say an Iroquois leader attempting a science/diplomacy win,

 

[Aztec_Snoopy]

geronimo would be a good one

 

[Greek Stud]

Geronimo is from the Apache civilization, if they mix Sioux with Apache then it will make this game a flop.

 

[Legioona]

I consider this idea pretty weird too… Why not call the civilization with corresponding tribe name? They will have one UU (I think?) anyways so it wouldn't make a big difference.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Think about it:

Capital: Sioux City
city: Sioux Falls
city: Iroquois city
city: Eskimo city

etc. WTH?

 

[cybrxkhan]

or...

Capital: Lakota
City: Iroqouis
City: Cherokee
City: Apache
City: Eskimo

better, but still wierd.

 

[Dutch Canuck]

Being that Civ IV is a historical simulation that also toys heavily with speculative "what if" elements, I think native tribes of North America are deserving of better recognition in the game. While there are practical limits to getting what we all want, surely the biggest cultural groups of North American Natives would be interesting and enjoyable to add to the game!

 

[Traitorfish]

Geronimo is from the Apache civilization, if they mix Sioux with Apache then it will make this game a flop.

Yes, because the success of the Civ games is based entirely on it's painstaking historical accuracy. The gameplay has nothing to do with it...
Most people don't really give a damn what the civs are. The only ones who care are nerds like us, and we make up a rather small percentage of the audience.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Most people don't really give a damn what the civs are. The only ones who care are nerds like us, and we make up a rather small percentage of the audience.

and history professors, and history buffs, and people who think they know history.

 

[Traitorfish]

and history professors, and history buffs, and people who think they know history.

And we all fall into at least one of those categories, right?

 

[cybrxkhan]

And we all fall into at least one of those categories, right?

righto. and i forgot to add in another category: Pho lovers.

 

[Traitorfish]

That's a category that I'd really rather forget. They... They scare me...

 

[cybrxkhan]

Me too.

anyhow, back on topic, i have to say that the "Native American" civ is still a better idea than the HRE.

any guesses on the UU?

 

[marioflag]

I can surely live with Native Americans as civ if Alexander is leader of Greeks for example.
Afterall this game is not an historical simulation.

 

[winddbourne]

I can live with a "native american" civilization using the current leader system, so long as it starts with multiple leaders. I can always choose to play with the leader "Sequoia" and rename the civ "Cherokee" in the start up screen.

I'd actually rather have them do that with the various "roman" empires, because europe is so crowded. But I'm not going to complain too loudly.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I'd rather have different Native American tribes (I think a great argument could be made for the Iroquois and a decent argument for the Souix. No one in their right mind would include anything else, but the Cherokee wouldn't be bad). In all honesty, I'd rather they had picked a specific tribe than making one civ to represent them all, but I'm glad they are at least in.