Navy
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Eli the Lich
Chieftain
no . but somtime you get some in the revolution .
somtime I buy soldier and artilery from another king if they propose ,the price is better than the academy .
last games did not buy privater
only 3 frigat 3 galeon and 1 merchant
some treasure and twice the fountain of youth
Doubtful Teeks
Chieftain
The Man-o-War can only be obtained through the intervention force of one of the other 2 powers. When you declare independence, one of the other powers will offer to supply you with trained forces if you can produce a certain number of liberty bells (your congress is filled when you declare independence). When this happens, you recieve one or more Man-o-Wars, depending on the difficulty level.
Are you sure about this? I always play on viceroy, and I usually get between 2 and 4.
One thing many people doesn't realize is, how useless the vessels are. Think about it: What do you do with your brand new frigate? You sail all the way to your enemy to sink a couple of his galleons! What do you get from the galleons? In the best case scenario you get tools, muskets and horses, but in most of the cases, you just get rum and stuff that you can sell... and what do you do when you've earned 5000? You buy another frigate! And by this time, your old one is probably going to sink anytime.
During the war of independence, frigates are useless, unless you are a complete amatour and let the enemy attack you. I always kill every unit the same turn they arrive to avoid that nasty man-o-war bonus and obtain that terrain bonus. When all the land units are killed, you win. In theory, it's possible to win the game without a single ship.
Also, this may be off topic, but buying ore miners? What a waste of time! First, you have to produce a lot of cash to buy them... and that takes time. It's much more effective to live near an inca or aztec capital (that can train farmers) and make your own population grow with 4 farmers or more in every city. By the time of independence (1650-1700 in my games) you should have 3 preachers in every city and then you get more units than you can handle anyway (at least one self-produced and one from the port)
Anyway, I always have a bunch of Galleons and frigates (to store horses) and maybe slow down the enemy progress by sinking a few of his ships for fun.
1 Merchantman or Caravel (depending on what you begin with)
3 Galleons
2 Privateers
4 Frigates
2-4 Man-o-Wars
Doubtful Teeks
Chieftain
Bad Brett, it is very possible that you always receive more than one Man-o-War. I didn't bother to check, and you always get at least one to transport the troops, so I guess one of more is correct, although not necessarily very precise. While the intervention force tends to be smaller on higher difficulty levels, if the two are proportional, I do not know.
Regarding the ore miners, I agree with you. I have never payed for the fare of so many colonists that the price has exeeded 600, so I have never had the need to buy ore miners.
Regarding the ore miners, I agree with you. I have never payed for the fare of so many colonists that the price has exeeded 600, so I have never had the need to buy ore miners.
That's interesting... is the intervention force random in some way? Because some games, when I'm really powerful, I get 4 ships that I really don't need... And sometimes, when I'm really weak and really need that intervention force, I get 2 man-o-wars...
What I really like about colonization is that it takes some time to realize what the game is all about. The firsts years I played it, I bought tons of artrillerys, killed the incas and the aztecs, and sold muskets for 19 gold... but after hundreds of games played, I learned that the key is to become indepent, it's more important to produce food and liberty bells than to produce things to sell. Basicly, all you have to buy ever is 2 horses! Selling and buying is just a waste of time. Especially ore miners...
This may seem off topic! Not really, because my whole point is that the navy is pretty worthless. (except to store horses, but wagon trains are better, because they can't be damaged by those indian raids)
What I really like about colonization is that it takes some time to realize what the game is all about. The firsts years I played it, I bought tons of artrillerys, killed the incas and the aztecs, and sold muskets for 19 gold... but after hundreds of games played, I learned that the key is to become indepent, it's more important to produce food and liberty bells than to produce things to sell. Basicly, all you have to buy ever is 2 horses! Selling and buying is just a waste of time. Especially ore miners...
This may seem off topic! Not really, because my whole point is that the navy is pretty worthless. (except to store horses, but wagon trains are better, because they can't be damaged by those indian raids)
