NC CLXVIII: Boudica of the Celts

[Seraiel]

@ hankinsohl:

Try to think like this: The earlier you get cities, the faster you'll get the benefit from them. There's a reason, why the most successful SGOTM teams conquer as soon as possible and try to take over the whole map asap. In CIV, ever city with a foreign TR contributes if having Currency. If you only REX to 3 cities, that gives you a faster start, but you'll needs longer for all later techs, so Education and similar. Once you get Cuirrs, you will also lack a lot of pop that could all have been whiped into Cuirrs.

 

[Seraiel]

@Seraiel

Ok You right i sloppy wrote and it could be unreadable if u connent this with my poor eng, but that wasnt intentional.
It just didn't occur to me that I could someone that offend( i didn want to insult anyone). Well sry for that.

But the draw so far as applications, far-reaching conclusion ( i dont know how to translate it) like ..
You dont care about people, becouse you didnt put any punctuation mark in post ... is ridiculous and rude !
And remember that if you are trying to judge someone "after two sentences".

1. I wrote that I “suspect that you don't care“ , that is no judgement.

2. Also, I wouldn't judge after 2 sentences if I were judging, cause I actually read all of your posts, and even with 1 post = being 1 sentence, those are more.

The reason, why me and others feel offended by your writing style, is, because you demand the reader to invest time in deciphering your post, instead of investing that time yourself. You want someone to read everything you wrote and you want tips on top, this with the need to decipher your posts is just too much.

 

[Seraiel]

V nice map, definetly winnable on deity. I had fun time to play it and thanks for posting.
Unfortunatly i lost it (retired 1916AD) becouse of several mistakes.

Spoiler :

1. I didnt run Great Scienties becouse of that i lost lib.

2. When i took 7 of 13 Wang cities i stop producing army, and then he trade rifling for steel.
I just didnt had enought Cuirassiers ( i had 30 could have like 50).
Finally i got him with cavalery and cannons, but i wasted about 15 turns. In that time i should attack someone else.

3. I didnt pay attention to reserch of my vassels.
Sometimes when they end reserch what i order them to do, they put 1 turn in to something what i was reserching.
This meens that i have to put more turns to this specific tech to get trade.

So Finally i never catch Augustus in tech, and i couldnt stop him from winning space thats why i retired.
( I stopped Asoka from winning culture but w/e).

@yyeah:

Spoiler :

1. Running Scientists to bulb Education is a really good move. It's possible to win without it, but bulbing Edu just makes everything so much easier.

2. I wonder why you stopped producing units at all. When I Cuirr / Cav rush, I build over 100 of them, and it's only 100+, because I have won the game then.

3. You forgot the ultimate weapon that wins all games: Nukes.

 

[yyeah]

@ Seraiel

Spoiler :

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Yes i forgot to add taht i wanted to 1 bulb Edu.
And you remind me here, becouse i didnt have chance to ask someone more expirienced.
What do you think about...

Putting academy in capital vs bulb Philosopy with 1st Great Scientiest
( in case that you are going for lib, with Bureaucracy Capitol with non Phi leader).

I noticed that in 80% maybe even 90% of my games on Deity Phi goes about 385BC - 200 BC. Its very early i cant get 2 GS until this time
(ok maybe with fast code of laws and caste but this is specific situation).

I usually start running 2GS when iam reserching astchetics, and offcourse early academy gives huge reserch boost in Bureaucracy Capitol.

But + when bulbing Phi ( at lest what i can see atm):

- great trade
- AIs dont reserching it when u found religion ( at least not too fast xD)
- 1 tech closer to lib
- found religon (whatever its worth it xD)

- and main reason why i am considering this ... better trades overall later,
to the point u can "safe trade" your Edu by choosing AI witch dont have Phi or Paper,
for like idk whatever you need Engi,Natio,PP,Guilds,Gunpowder,
this range of possibilities gives allso more options what tech u can choose to lib.

Can you put some light on this issue ?

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I decide to stop prducing army becouse( u can put this all to 1 basket)

- maintenance + whip and war
( not everywhere but taht was beggining of if i can describe like this)
becouse of that i was going broke and wanted to catch up in tech earlier to lunch invasion

- i smashed him - i took out hes main stack at beginning, i took hes capitol and 6 best cities very fast, just didnt though that he can recover from this,

- i was confident that 1 more city and he will cap

- i didnt see anywhere bigger stack ( but he found 1 ), in moust of cities defenders was like 2 muskets 2 longbows 1 pike, maybe cannon here and there

- cuirassier was obsoleted anyway i couldnt afford to upgr

And you know i think that all deity players had that overconfidence like .. i can get him "for cheep" if you know what i meen.
I still have to convince myself that you cant get AI on Deity "for cheep". Well yeah u can do it and it can win you a hard game ive done it but i supose this is gamble.

Btw 100 units its a huge stack... but u meen that u produced 100 units or u have 100 unit stack.
To be honest i never had such a huge cur/cav stack on standard/normal, its not worth it imo usually usually 20-30 unit stack its ok to begin with it and then about 40-50.
There are some exeptions offcourse like Montezuma xD ( i meen he like doesnt cap on deity i had several games when he refuse to cap, even when i took like 11 cieties and i left him 1, also hes huge unit spammer)
Pangea where u can conquer whole continent with it if played right.

Anyway i didnt need 100 cur stack here becouse plan was to take only this continent with them.
I wanted conquer rest of world adding cannons rifles -> artylery infantry paratroopers thats a army comp with i have most succes on Deity ( i won several games like this).

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I was thinking about it becouse all "signs" was telling me to go for it
{"signs" - Wang was reserching fussion and i let him to end it}.

But problem is i never had a successful game on deity with nukes. I played them couple of times - maybe thats why iam not good at it.

Well iam still begginer on Deity, still more loosing then winning maybe becouse my range of played strategic is too short.
Anyway this is inspiring iam playing now NC169 Pacal i think i try nukes just to improove and this map i think isnt bad fr it.

 

[Seraiel]

@ yyeah:

Spoiler :

Tapatalk has eaten my post for the 3rd time .

Just in very short:

1. Bulbing Philo is good, when Philp can't be acquired by trade. If it can, bulbing Edu is stronger. You can also think about skipping the Academy for bulbing Edu, with poor capitals, that's the right move.

2. There are 3 ways to handle War Weariness:

A) build Theaters and run the Culture-slider .
B) Get mire reaources (trade!) .
C) Conduct a cease fire and DoW again at the end of the round. You lose your war success though.

Best way ofc is to win the war faster, and with less losses. See 3. for that.

3. Please read “Replay #9“ to see how I wage war. It's a detailed writeup with many pictures, so it's easy to read, and I win it with Cavs + Spies + Airships and later also use Nukes. It's perfect for you to learn, so really read the few pages that it takes. You don't have to watch the videos for all explanations, if you're only interested in the war, start reading at 700 AD.