NC CXIV: Charlemagne of the Holy Roman Empire

BUG - Prince - Normal - no events and I believe no huts as well LOL

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2000 BC
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Settled 2nd city next to gold (although first thought was 1E of current spot) for few reasons:

- getting 10 riverside tiles vs 8 on 1E (corn excluded) and 4 water tiles instead of 6
- explored to see enough land around and saw 3 AI's close to me and we're probably on island (maybe there is land east of Wang tho), so I decided to pack cities more tightly this time
- it fits better with placements of future cities LOL
- looks like early-ish war is inevitable, and I want units out of more cities

Wanted to settle 3rd on vine spot, but saw copper and decided to grab it, settling in Wang's face - I hope De Gaulle doesn't mess vine spot up - I plan to settle it next as well as wheat/sheep spot.

If I do all that, I'll close off De Gaulle from east completely, so if I'm gonna take on someone it'll most likely be Wang, cause I'm already in his face.

I declared on Justinian, stole his unprotected worker 1 NE of Incense LOL and made peace asawp

Started on mids, switched to granary and am about to whip it + 1 worker is chopping already and 2nd is just about to connect stone and join in chopping (late with stone, but didn't want SH nor GW)

These are my thoughts for now, any feedback appreciated - more info on event log screen (sorry about the repeat of info in 2000 BC, restarted for screens)

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I'll post saves this game as well

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1000 BC
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Jeez, didn't do much these 1000 years - got the mids, settled 4th on wheat/sheep.

Lost vine spot (De Gaulle settled 1S of planed) and Wang settled his 3rd city 2N of planed (NE of wheat/sheep spot). Still good all that, now I'm settling north for deer/furs.

I'm in solid relations, so might wait for catas before war...time to build only axes from next turn.

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@Dubioza


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Settled 2nd city next to gold (although first thought was 1E of current spot) for few reasons:

- getting 10 riverside tiles vs 8 on 1E (corn excluded) and 4 water tiles instead of 6
- explored to see enough land around and saw 3 AI's close to me and we're probably on island (maybe there is land east of Wang tho), so I decided to pack cities more tightly this time
- it fits better with placements of future cities LOL
- looks like early-ish war is inevitable, and I want units out of more cities

It seems to me that this analysis failed to account for some key points in this position.

Aachen, the capital, has a miserable set of tiles; city tile + sheep + cows + stone = +4 :food: , which isn't very much with so many brown tiles around you. It's not at all clear to me that the corn can be spared.

If Aachen can't spare the food, then you've settled the gold with no food tile at all. Sure, you can irrigate everything, but you aren't obviously winning. Settling the other side of the river is slower (you need a border pop), and still requires the corn briefly, but after that's done the western corn can sustain the gold, and you are good to go.

Vienna has a similar problem -- with so many brown tiles in the neighborhood, I'm not sure the wheat is enough. Instead of trying to support Vienna and Nuremberg, I think you would have done better for yourself to plant a single city on the tile west of the wheat (picking up wheat + copper + sheep, with an option on the stone).


Your choice of placement for the gold works well with your original plan that included a city at the corn + wines. For that idea to work, though, you probably have to gun for that location -- expecting to be able to settle three cities before France can plant one is asking a lot.

I think placing your second city there could work: you'll have corn and two hills in the inner ring, so the city is immediately useful for pushing out units. You could then push out a city to the east, and then settle the gold. That gets you the land claim you want, at the cost of delaying your research and growth.

But settling the gold first is the natural play; I find no fault with it.
 
@VoiceOfUnreason & 300 BC
TY & appreciate fast feedback :)
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I did a lot of tile switching with all cities and built "empty" farms first - gold city now have 6 cottages. I risked borrowing corn when building workers and settlers in capitol, there switching to mines - 1 turn (or not at all) slower settlers&workers for fast pop or 2 in gold city. It worked out pretty nicely.

Similar thing for Vienna - I settled wheat/sheep city even before I whipped monument in Vienna with roads to resources and workers in positions. Chopped some, whipped some, with few "empty" farms and switching wheat I got them to 4-5-6 in no time. Even with whipping.

I thought about settling vine first, and was only 2-3 turns late even with 3rd settler.

While doing all that, 3 cities built 22 axes and gold city (with no barracks) 8 archers. Being worst enemy of De Gaulle for most of the time, I changed plans and went for him :) And I saw hammer yields in ocean, so he must have built MoaiS in Paris and I figured better now then later :)
Orleans (vine city) fell with my 3 losses, healed and am already at Paris.

Got GEngineer and rushed Parthenon in Vienna - I know, MCasting should be only option, but I like that Parthenon :) More GPPs and to counter culture next to Seoul (with Temple of Artemis) sounds good enough :)

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Now since MoaiS are in Paris, I think settling coastal cities with only coastal (2 :commerce:) water tiles? I'm having trouble (again) with placement. And map doesn't help LOL No city there can get 2 (or 3) food resources...best place for floodplains is 2S of vine, but then all other cities get too much overlap or something...and if I do like I alt-x'd, sheep is out of all BFC's
Grrrr :) Help!! :confused:

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I hope I make sense - am kinda tired&sleepy today :)
 

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Hello again! I started to play this one today. I've tried to make better city placements this time. I'll post it tomorrow with some amazing 3D screenshots (yes I use BAT MOD and Blue Marble now). I played to 100AD. The game is my first game after my first noble victory :)
 
To 1300AD. Not quite sure how well/bad I'm doing..

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Waged war on Wang Kon in the last update, and it went well, then I took peace for some tech, with the intent of crushing him next. Instead, the tit peace-vassals to Justinian :mad: Still went ahead and moved my capital to Seoul as it looks a fantastic commerce capital. However, the city is being hosed in culture and I've had to stuff the place with about 15 units just to keep it afloat.

Decided to wage war with the French again. It went okay and I captured 4 more cities, but only just, and two of them switched hands back and forth before things settled. Didn't have quite enough forces. It was thankfully enough to cap him, though.

Justinian has been well ahead in tech, and is settling on some other islands somewhere, but after some tech trading I've almost caught up. Went for Liberalism early and thankfully won it. Took Nationalism and then GE-ed the Taj Mahal. Economy is still down the toilet, though.

Will try to go for Cuirs now, but Justinian is kind of there already with his Cataphracts. Have to get him under control one way or another though. If I do, the continent will be under my control, and I'd feel a bit safer.

If only the economy could be rescued. The land is so utterly dreadful it's hard to do anything useful with most of the cities, at least until Biology. About half my cities are building wealth atm, but I'm still losing (a lot of) money with 0% research. It's bonkers.

Screenshots of the West and the East, where you can see the horror of my new capital :(
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Haven't played Civ for a while and can't log in to my old account (can't remember username/password), but feel like having a crack at this. I'm a bit rusty, but I'll have a crack on Emperor. Should be a laugh.

Kinda tempted to settle 2E on the Stone. I know I lose the river bonus, but Charlie's starting techs aren't that great, so I don't feel like I've time to make an early game diversion to Masonry to hook up the Stone. Would rather crack on with more important worker techs. Plus it gives me the very tempting option of a quick Stonehenge in the capital. I know Great Prophets don't have the greatest rep, but I kinda like them in the early game as they can aid a struggling economy if needed. Oracle slingshot to Code of Laws also tempting.

Welcome back to CFC! :goodjob:

I don't think settling on the Stone looks very good. Way too many plains tiles to the east and as you say you give up riverside. Also consider the hammer bonus lost from not settling in place on the plains hill.

Have currently clocked up 32 hours in the previous NC :eek:

I'm famously at the opposite end of the scale. It takes me 20-30 hours over several days to play a game, which is likely part of the reason I have so much trouble finishing one.

I'm also a terrible plodder, every step gets re-considered at least twice, and then some... my games typically last 30+ hours.

Anyway, I love this series and really should play more of these...
 
660 AD

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De Gaulle died 2 turns after last update :) MoaiS in Paris died with him.

Felt good, my score was double all the time, so I was just slowly developing&managing cities and building swords...

Most of axes were healing in Orleans, while few went toward east coast fogbusting and found 2 barb cities - took one, razed other and they rebuilt it on same spot LOL I'd keep it, but in between those 2 are floodplains and to squeeze one more there is too much overlap.

AI's tech kinda slowly still, but I managed to trade for Fishing, Sailing, IW, Monarchy and Construction (from Wang) just before I attacked him :)
Stole I think Meditation and Priesthood with only spy.

Yeah, so I decided to attack Wang cause he started pumping out units - I had 3.5 more power, and then suddenly only 2.2 - in 4 turns 3 cities fell, now he have only one, northernmost city. So I'll put him out of misery, I think thats fair..

Settled gems south of Paris, now I'm short on workers. I think I won't settle for awhile - except on floodplains - and maybe south of them as well and build Forbidden Palace there..

I lost around 30 units against Wang, so poor Justinian will suffer with only 3 cities till I rebuild army - for now catas, soon maces. I want Constantinople tho, looks pretty good to me..

Got GScientist, settled him in cottage city. Then specialized Paris for GP. Got GEngineer and instead of bulbing Engineering, I rushed GLibrary in Paris. Cause I feared 640 AD is late to start building it normally. I kinda regret that, 1000 :science: is a lot better then 350? :hammers:

Demographics look decent, all but GNP. Will specialize Wangs cities for more commerce..

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-100AD

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I decided to stay and settle in the place where settler was standing. I walked around and I saw much "plain" tiles...I think that they are no good. Then the first AI showed up:

And second one:

After that I saw something what almost made me scream!! My worst enemy in civilization. He finally was here, in NC game. He has destroyed me in battle so many times that my finnish bitterness was now boiling over!!! I almost DoWed him instantly but I managed to calm down. I'll finish him later! He will pay!! He said "Join me at peace". I don't believe him anymore.. I don't thrust him.

Ok thats it... I'll fight that guy off soon...

Here is my cities:

Prague:


Vienna:


And Nurenberg:


And I made one wonder:


And here is overview of the whole nation:


And what comes to religions: Byzanth:Buddhism, Others:Hindu


Help is really needed. I'm preparing to war against "you know who". Here is the save file:
 
-100AD

After that I saw something what almost made me scream!!

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Haven't had a chance to look at your game yet but from the pictures, here ya go. Unhappiness is never good and it's better to whip that population into some useful production before you start getting into unhappiness. Have I linked this video before? CamH has a short video on the two pop whip. Any city churning out several units should also have a barracks before. See if you can scout Justinian's territory before declaring to see what defenders you'll face. Remember swords have a bad time against axemen. Catapults are somewhat suicidal units that will need to be replaced but if you have enough only they will die for the most part. I'd guess 3-4 cataputs, 3 swords, 3 axes would be sufficient for your first strike with replacement catapults in production/on the way.

edit - maybe that military is a bit small but it's just a start, so long as he doesn't have longbows this or a bit more should be pretty good. attacking with overwhelming power is always better but waiting too long also hurts. if he has horses, a spear would be good to defend the stack from horse archers, garrisoning the city with an archer will keep attacking units attacking rather than on garrison duty when it's time to move for city two.

Cities are a bit too widely spaced, tile sharing for your commerce cities is good. 4th city probably cost a ton in maintenance but did get horses but the core cities could have been closer to the central river. Why did you stop building cities after city 4?

Trying for the pyramids would have been nice as well. A lot of people, myself included, are big fans of running representation early.

Same religious configuration as in my game. Wiped Justinian out as well and wow he built a bunch of nice wonders for me
 
Playing this on immortal so i don't tear my hair out, charlie is one of the weakest leaders. If ever there was a perfect example of the importance of moving your warrior/scout before settling, this is it. Perhaps players trying to move up in difficulty will find the breakdown helpful:

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The only place it makes sense to move the scout is diagonally south-west. Thus revealing:

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So now we see the option of losing 1 turn to settle what is without doubt a much stronger capital location. That's not to say that settling in place is terrible. SIP here is actually quite strong in the very short term because of the imperialistic trait.

But settling 1s of the wet corn means that the goldmine will be your second improved tile, which will allow you to really blow through all the worker techs you want and really get down to business. And in this case working a wet corn, a riverside cow, and the gold mine to build your settlers and workers comes out ahead of the sheep/cow/corn plus 1h from settling on the PH.

cow(3f3h1c)+sheep(4f1h2c)+corn(6f1c)+city tile(2f2h1c)= 15f 6h 5c so 15f 9h 5c while building a settler

cow(3f3h1c)+goldmine(3h8c)+corn(6f1c)+city tile(2f1h1c)= 11f 7h 11c so 11f 10h 11c while building a settler.

Your settler takes a bit longer but you have swapped 3 units of production for 6 commerce. You can then use the settler's starting location for a second or third city, at which point it can produce settlers in something like 6 or 7 turns. Nice! Charlie's traits do absolutely nada for your economy, and he has the worst possible starting techs. So being able to work the goldmine asap can be huge. For example, it allowed me to do this:

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Alpha before anybody I know has writing. I think I was able to trade writing+masonry for IW with a couple turn put into it, which is huge. The AI is still not able to tech-trade, and I will still get top value for alpha as a monopoly tech.

In the longer term, it also allows you to have a decent and fairly early bureau/commerce capital without moving your palace, which can and will contribute more than 2/3 of your research for pretty much the entire game. As it turns out, this map is severely lacking in commerce for a leader who is already a weak techer. You should be able to manage something like this:

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Not too long after civil service is in. So thanks to a logical move with the scout on the opening screen and a decision to prioritize research, I was able to get out to an early tech lead that I never relinquished while still settling every spot I wanted (8 cities plus a late 9th garbage city when I finally realized there were still unclaimed horses north of Wang's cities).
 

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@Robert FIN

I'd really like to help you, but I'm too big of a rookie still - but by 100 AD I see too few mines, no cottages, too many forests, unhappy cities and kinda no military...and 4th city is too far away. I'm sorry I can't load your save to see more, I have only BUG...

1120 AD
I think I did good so far :)
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After killing Wang, next natural move was to rebuild his lands and my army. Scouted Justinian, and went for him. Easy. Split stack, one went for Constantinople, other for Adrianople and later Thessalonica. Oracle, Colossus, GLighthouse, Shwedagon Paya and Mahabodhi in Constantinople LOL And all my cities have Buddhism :)

Weird tho, they all had little land developed and only 2-4-3 cities, eventho they all had 1 or 2 settlers going zzzz IN their cities...ok, Wang was blocked, but De Gaulle and Justinian had land to take, they even built roads and some improvements way outside BFC's (like in last screen - E, SE and all the way S of marble all done by Justinian)

I should have settled dye earlier - now I'm alone on island and will fill it soon..

Got second GScientist, settled him in poorly developed (now almost fully cottaged) Seoul, later bulbed Philosophy and got GArtist from music 2 turns before Paris finished Mausoleum LOL

I still don't know where Mehmed is, but someone got quite a few GGenerals, so I know he's not alone. Or maybe he is, and someone else somewhere else is fighting...trireme is on the way to find out...

Maybe I was lucky, maybe it's that kind of map, maybe it was good that I settled in Wang's face and blocked him forcing him to semi-block Justinian - eventho I didn't know it would have that effect and play out like it did, but it felt too easy...maybe now the storm is coming LOL - but I don't see much difference between Noble and Prince - I traded more techs and there was kinda more barbs around...

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@shulgi
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Yeah! Its shulgi message again!! I'm not sure if I've forgot hereditary rule again.. Why are my cities unhappy?? Whipping?? Well I'll check the link later, it is useful hopefully. By the way; I don't know how theater and colosseums actually work. Its like "this building provides u 9000:) faces if you have X% culture". WUT:confused: Confusianism strikes on me once again!! X% From what?? Tell me that. It is as weird as the "biography" question in profile page... More barracks? Ok :) I'll follow your SoD plan and idiot Justinian will be totally wiped out. Why I haven't build more cities? Bc of maintenance. My previous NC start was horrible cuz I made much crappy citoes and paid the maintenance :( I wanted to build Nuremberg far away from other cities, otherwise he wouldn't grab the wheat. Thanks for your comment and help.
 
I don't know how theater and colosseums actually work. Its like "this building provides u 9000:) faces if you have X% culture". WUT:confused: Confusianism strikes on me once again!! X% From what?? Tell me that.

Culture slider. It's analogous to the research slider, but you don't get to use it until your civilization discovers drama.

The direct effect is that it converts a fraction of the commerce in each city to raw culture, which may then be multiplied by various buildings, and ultimately gets added to the cultural level in that city. It's a very important element in cottage driven culture strategies.

The indirect effect, as you have noticed, is that some buildings will give bonus happy when you increase the percentage of commerce invested in culture.
 
1620AD. Third war.

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Wang Kon peace vassaling to Justinian was a pain in the butt because my new capital got swamped in culture. I had to switch to Free Speech to try to combat it, and slowly it helped, though no tiles went back. Suddenly Wang Kon broke free of Justinian and wanted to peace vassal to me instead. Pondered whether to crush him instead, but took him on board. To my big surprise, this somehow meant that my culture expanded, and the capital now became the thunderboom it promised. Workers galore was sent over to get up cottages. Better late than never.

Justinian was teching pretty fast, but he wasn't choosing the right techs. I went for military and massed some Cuirs. Attacked from three direction, and fairly quickly romped him. In 1620 all cities on the continent were taken. Seems like all others have branched out to other islands ore continents. His capital Constantinople is a peach, with the holy city of Hinduism the main thing. It's been a Hindu love-fest so far, so it'll bring in a lot. Definite Wall Street location!

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He had a wee city in the west, which I hoped the French would take. They couldn't muster enough forces, so I had to do it. This battle was a lot of fun.......... 99.8% odds. You lose. WTH?! :mad:
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Not entirely sure where to go from here. Sury is pretty big in the east, with even more power than me, and Mehmed and Sitting Bull are to the south. I can probably manage to trade Astronomy, mass galleons and crush them. But it's time-consuming. Maybe it's just as good to just chill now and tech for space or UN. May even be able to AP-cheese at this point, though I don't really want to do that.

One thing's for sure, it felt good to cap Justinian after he was running away in tech for most of the game. He REALLY should have built more Cataphracts though. Longbows doesn't really work against Cuirs, and once Cavalry joined the fight too, they were laughing.


I've put up a lot of AP monasteries and temples, but it says the monasteries will be obsolete by scientific method. Does that mean they do nothing in the cities they have been built, or that I simply can't build them any more? Will the hammer, culture and research bonus disappear?

Also, what do you recommend I do now? Crush, or tech for space/UN?
 
When something becomes obsolete, it doesn't disappear. It just stops giving you it's bonus effects (in this case, the science and hammer bonus). It will continue to give you culture.
 
Oh, kind of pointless to build them all over the place then I guess :( Have put Scientific method off for a while, but really want to grab Communism and shift into State Property.
 
Well, you can delay State Property for quite a bit since a) all your cities are on one continent, and b) your unique building really helps with costs.

I tend to just build temples for bonuses.... 20 more hammers than a monastery but I don't have to feel I should be putting off sciMeth for ages.

I wanted to play with Landsnechts so I dialled the difficulty down to Monarch and through to 1AD....
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Settled in place. Fantastic hammer site. Settled south at corn/gold site and built lots of cottages. 3rd site was in Wang's face - getting copper, sheep and that other food source. Wang improved the sheep before I took it back with culture :lol:

I stuck at 3 cities for a bit, teched nicely and managed to Oracle Machinery in 950BC. I didn't tech fishing so I could bulb Engineering with a great scientist. I did this in 150BC - took a bit longer as I didn't realise I had to tech Alphabet and Aesthetics too. In the meantime I build the Pyramids (pretty late) and Hanging Gardens. Representation helped a lot as usual. I also settled 3 more cities - one in the west with the 1 food source and all the hills for a small but good production site, and 2 pretty good tundra cities that grabbed a few resources each.

About 10 turns after 150BC I was all ready to declare war. The capital's crazy production continued and other sites plus some whipping helped to get trebs and landsneckhts (how many different ways can I spell that incorrectly?!). The French will face my wrath, because a) they have the most land by a LONG way (Koreans have 6 and Justantin has 4 with their land full), and b) they are the Korean's worst enemy. Further update to come later...
 
1770 AD
Spoiler :

emperor, not k-mod
Not sure exactly which victory type I'm shooting for. Right now I don't exactly feel like backstabbing De Gaulle, Sury's far away and the continent of unit spammers Mehmed and the very much reduced Sitting Bull isn't exactly tempting either.

Since I built so many ratthaus and my capitol was a bit subpar for bureaucracy I have been running an espionage economy with nationalism for a very long time, using ~20-30% espionage and ~20% science. It's been working pretty well. Most techs have been stolen from Cheju and Pyongyang and some from Orleans.

I managed to get three cities on France's West coast, two from barbarians, culture hasn't been a huge problem though I could reclaim a few tiles even now.
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Instead of a knight war, I upgraded my knights to cuirasiers and declared on Justinian (the only buddhist on our island though initially I had more buddhist cities than hindu). De Gaulle joined the war and took Justinian's fourth and last city while I took the others. After Constantinople (chock full of wonders and a pretty good buddhist shrine and a second Scotland Yard) the other cities didn't have too much.
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I cannot resist settling open land and discovered the island to the south before France had any cities there. They did get one before my galley arrived and captured this barbarian city twice only to have it recaptured twice. Two cuirasiers sent to the island captured three barb cities. Up to present the French have two cities on the island and I have eight.
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Eventually I decided I was being too peaceful and decided Wang was too good a target with the Hindu shrine and triple corn capitol with Spiral Minaret, a few other wonders and as I would find, a third Scotland Yard. Here's the start of the war, planned to coincide with rifles-cavalry upgrade, those are leftover from the Byzantine war.
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Mehmed declared on me and took this city. The draft really helped take it back and get some military on this not very promising island. I bribed De Gaulle into this war (I had begged gold from him before I started the Korean war to avoid unexpected vassaling and this would keep him busy after that first peace treaty had ended). A further bonus was the French navy has demolished the Ottoman navy and I haven't had trouble since then.
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I figured that if I wanted to keep Pyongyang and Seoul, Korea would be a very weak vassal with a hole cut through the center of their territory. I have taken it all and will probably hunt down their island cities. Kinda too bad, he was willing to vassal after losing his first city and a bunch of maces and hwachas.
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Not really sure what my strategy is after this, will probably pause here for a day or two. Still stealing most techs, just now from De Gaulle.
 
1505 AD
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First 3 games I won Domination, so this one I'll try Diplomatic. Built Apostolic Palace, 2 votes passed - I'm not quite sure how this works, but I voted for myself while Mehmed for himself - I got around 450, he got 20 votes...guess I'll keep voting for myself and win like that?
I payed him 265:gold: for making peace with Sitting Bull, cause he's stronger and was winning that war.
I'm getting a lot of GP out of Paris + one from Constantinople and Seoul, now running 4th continuous Golden Age with few turns break after 1st one LOL
Score is through the roof, power not so much - now I'm just building everything everywhere LOL Tech lead eons ahead - I mean they don't even have Aest. yet...
Running slider on 80% for 1600:science: per turn, 470:science: out of Seoul alone(moved Palace there) - on 100% would be 560:science:

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Ohh, this could take a while...I need to find last AI first, and get all civs to become members...and I need to spread APReligion to all AI's?
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7. Diplomatic Victory
Prerequisite: ALL Civs in the game must be Members. To be eligible for Victory the Civ must be a Full Member or AP owner. This proposal requires 75% of the vote and cannot be Defied. A Civ cannot win a Diplomatic Victory if it supplies at least 75% of the vote on its own.
And I should supply LESS then 75% votes? I hope last AI have big population then...good thing is that at least Mehmed switched to my religion...but Sitting Bull hated me right from the start we met (now at -6)
 

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100-1000AD
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I decided to follow shulgi's plan and made army against Justinian. I'm sure that he was planning to attack me and here is nice screenshot of him before I DoWed:

And the holy battle was began.

My stack:


I moved my forces to Thessalonica and captured it after bombarded their walls of and softed the defenders with catas.


Justinian was totally surprised. He moved his palace to Adrianople before my forces attacked to capital:

After bloody fight Constantinople was taken. (1000AD)

I also found a few cities more in this round... And captured a barb city:)



Thats it. Check the save file if you like.
 
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