Need artist for a 2D 'Constantine the Great'

[roblrich]

As the title states, looking for an artist to create a 2D art of 'Constantine the Great' for a new Civ5 civ mod. Please contact either me or Barbarian King who will be doing the mod.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Viregel]

I can attempt something, but I doubt it will be great.

 

[roblrich]

I can attempt something, but I doubt it will be great.

Go for it.

 

[Sun Ce of Wu]

What about this? I know it's very simple, and that the corruption of the statue is still visible (especially on his face), but it could be a good point to start
With background
https://www.dropbox.com/s/331y6fejt6zh2pv/costantino.jpg
Without background
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8zuw7jfo099ymg/costantino.png

 

[roblrich]

I'll message Viregel and see what he thinks. Thanks.

I'll message Viregel and see what he thinks. Thanks.

Viregel has communicated that he can indeed use the above links to help in his art. Thanks for providing them. Barbarian King has agreed to do the coding once he attains the art. Thanks to all as I am looking forward to this mod.

Also, as I understood him, Barbarian King is welcoming discussion and suggestions for the mod. You can discuss them here.

There is not much I can do to help, but I have come up with a leader intro I hope is satisfactory.



Oh great Constantine, Christians worldwide celebrate the 1700th anniversary of your conversion and victory at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, as you were the first Roman emperor to profess Christianity. No Roman emperor had a greater impact on the modern world than you have, great one. The reason is not simply that you converted to Christianity but that you did so in a way that brought your subjects along after you.

Constantine, your conversion is but one feature of a unique administrative style that enabled you to take control of an empire beset by internal rebellions and external threats by Persians and Goths. You were careful in your exercise of power but capable of ruthless, even savage actions when needed. As an unparalleled general throughout your life, even on your deathbed you were planning a major assault on the Sassanian Empire in Persia. You believed that your success came from the direct intervention of God and in His name you resided as an aggressive warrior, a sometimes cruel partner, and an immensely shrewd ruler. These characteristics combined together with a long and remarkable career, restored the Roman Empire to its former glory.

Constantine, your reign marked a distinct epoch in the history of the Roman Empire. You built a new imperial residence at Byzantium and named it New Rome. However, in your honor, the Romans called it Constantinople which would later be the capital of the Byzantine Empire for over one thousand years.

Oh Constantine the Great, can you once again rise and lead your empire to the magnificent glory it once was? Can you once again build and lead a Byzantine and Roman Empire that will stand the test of time?

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[Barbarian King]

That's a good first draft for an intro, although when I make the mod I will probably rewrite it a little to include some more references to his rise and consolidation of power as well as tighten it a bit.

As for the leader/civilization, I think leaving the two Roman UUs works, and I think the new UA should definitely have something to do with both Constantine's military exploits and religious involvement. My initial idea is to have a trait wherein forts (which can be built by legionnaires) produce faith and missionaries (which can be purchased with faith) provide a combat boost to adjacent soldiers (similar to the great general). I think this would create a nice synergy between the UA and UUs. I am, of course, open to other ideas or thoughts on how to improve my own.

 

[roblrich]

As for the leader/civilization, I think leaving the two Roman UUs works.

Forgive me for asking, but the two Roman UU's? What are UU's? Unique units?

But yea, do what you think is best.

 

[Viregel]

Yup, unique units. Anyway, I'm having little luck with the leaderscreen at the moment. Gimp just won't work! I should be able to get something soon though. What would be your preferred background for Constantine?

 

[roblrich]

Myself, I really don't know what you need. I'll post some pics of some Constantine's symbols, shields, etc. Maybe you can use them in your art or not.


Flag of the Western Roman Empire. It is also the image that Constantine used on the shields of his army (Labarum).

East Roman Empire Shield

Banner of Constantine

 

[Barbarian King]

Forgive me for asking, but the two Roman UU's? What are UU's? Unique units?

But yea, do what you think is best.

Yeah, like Viregel said, UU = Unique Unit. Also, just fyi, UB = Unique Building, UA = Unique Ability, and UI = Unique Improvement.

 

[roblrich]

I like the idea of Legionnaire forts producing faith.

You wouldn't be interested in replacing the Ballista with the 'Palatini Cavalry'? The palatini were created by Constantine after he disbanded the Praetorian Guard in AD 312.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

You wouldn't be interested in replacing the Ballista with the 'Palatini Cavalry'? The palatini were created by Constantine after he disbanded the Praetorian Guard in AD 312.

That's quite a good idea. The cavalry of the palatini were known as "Vexillationes palatinae."

 

[Barbarian King]

The Palatini Cavalry can be used as a UU in lieu of the Ballista if we can find a good 3D model to use. If all else fails, repurposing the Cataphract model would proabably work as well. Since they were apparently a successor to the Praetorian Guard, I was thinking I could probably give them that promotion that the Ethiopian unit has, which makes them fight stronger when closer to the capital. Thoughts?

Also, roblrich, could you write up some Civilopedia entries (Constantine's history, history of the "Vexillationes palatinae") so we could have that for the mod?

 

[roblrich]

Also, roblrich, could you write up some Civilopedia entries (Constantine's history, history of the "Vexillationes palatinae") so we could have that for the mod?

Here's a first draft on the Palatini Cavalry. I was surprised not being able to find much info on the web at all. But I came up with this.

Palatini Cavalry

The palatini were created by Constantine I after he disbanded the Praetorian Guard in AD 312. Palatini cavalry regiments were called vexillationes. The majority of these Roman cavalry regiments were semi-armored to heavily armored types, suitable for melee combat, for harassment and pursuit, and for the shock charge. With horses draped in chain mail or plated armor, and the rider himself in an equally impressive suit of armor, these mounted units were used primarily for crushing through the lines of enemy infantry. Although these late Roman army units were used in both the east and western parts of the empire, on the Eastern frontier the cavalry played a more prominent role.

I suggest (and hope) since the Palatini Cavalry was a late Roman army unit and lasted for many hundred years that they could be made to replace the regular cavalry with the strength of 35 and 5 movement, and if possible use Constantine's banner emblem as the unit identifier (whatever it is called). It's frustrating playing unique units that only last a few turns. Myself, I set up 'most' of my games not to go past the Industrial Age. If you plan on using it as a horseman replacement, I would suggest just using the Cataphract as people will be confused why a cavalry unit is so weak. But again, my hopes are the above.

I disagree with the premise that unique units strictly adhere to the time of the leader's life. If the civilization thrived to a certain time period, especially a civilization like Byzantium and Rome, they would be leading the world in military technology.


Constantine

History

Constantine I, first Christian Roman emperor known as ‘the Great’, ruled from 306 to 337. The first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity, Constantine decreed religious tolerance throughout the empire. As emperor, Constantine enacted many administrative, financial, social, and military reforms to strengthen the empire. Constantine rescued the failing empire, continuing work started by his father, Constantius. But he also reinvented the empire' restoring peace, stability and security by promoting harmony and tolerance, abandoning Rome to establish a more easily defensible capital at Constantinople.



Early Life

Constantine was the son of Flavius Valerius Constantius, a Roman army officer, and his consort Helena. His father became Caesar, the deputy emperor in the west in 293. Constantine was sent east, where he rose through the ranks to become a military tribune under the emperors Diocletian and Galerius. In 305, Constantius was raised to the rank of Augustus, senior western emperor, and Constantine was recalled west to campaign under his father in Britannia.



Rise to Power

After his father's death in 306, his soldiers proclaimed Constantine emperor, but much rivalry for the vacated office ensued. Constantine emerged victorious in a series of civil wars against the emperors Maxentius and Licinius to become sole ruler of both west and east by 324.

Constantine as sole ruler of the empire while in a reign of peace, he set about rebuilding the strength of old Rome. Constantine continued to tolerate paganism and even to encourage the imperial cult. At the same time, however, he endeavored to unify and strengthen Christianity.


Whatever else you need just ask. Please keep us apprised of the mod's progress. I anxiously await it's completion.

 

[Craig_Sutter]

The only problem I foresee with adjusting the fort as suggested is that in unmodded games, only the human player's civ will have legionaries building the forts. AI civs do not build improvements with anything but workers or dedicated units. Supposedly multitalented units like the samurai and legion only use those abilities for human players. If the fort were to be made into a UI of some sort, workers could be allowed to build them and a lot more would be built so that the improvement's faith generation would be of more use to an AI run Byzantium.

Whoward69's dll corrects this problem.

 

[roblrich]

Craig's suggestion makes sense to me.

 

[Barbarian King]

I think I'll use one of the mounted units from this unit pack by danrell. Based on your description of the Palatini, I'm leaning towards using the Knight model. Since you wrote that these units played a prominent role on the frontier, I think instead of the capital bonus promotion I'll use a flanking bonus promotion. The unit will be either a horseman or knight replacement (probably horseman), since I think it's proper that it be within the Roman timeline (Classical/Medieval).

@Craig_Sutter
I didn't realize that the AI never uses their legions to build forts. Fortunately, my plan all along was to take the simple path and just give Constantine's UA a general faith bonus for forts. Now I have a good excuse for taking the easy route.

 

[roblrich]

The unit will be either a horseman or knight replacement..

I hope it's the knight.


I bought this music thinking maybe we could do something different for leader/war music.

The password is : constantine

https://dc1.safesync.com/LMvMbMWw/T...tine_the_Great_-_Shadowyze).mp3?a=QhwBnQWq0rc

 

[Wodhann]

I bought this music thinking maybe we could do something different for leader/war music.

(Image)

The password is : constantine

https://dc1.safesync.com/LMvMbMWw/T...tine_the_Great_-_Shadowyze).mp3?a=QhwBnQWq0rc

I have one word for this... Lol....

 

[roblrich]

This is going to be a great mod. And with that music, it will make mention in PC Gamer!

I played the mod on epic to about turn 310. It played great with no issues. I love the forts with faith. The workers are diligent about building them.