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Never before seen wonders II - Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Xandinho, Jul 23, 2017.

  1. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 20
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 21
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 20
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 20
    Mina El Teniente - 17
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21
    TauTona Mine - (17-3)=14 A big hole in the ground, very wondrous...:rolleyes:
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 20
    Willis Tower - (8+1)=9 I'm appalled that this will go first, before the Mining wonders. And some mediocre churches.
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20

    I have to say I dislike most of the "wonders" on this list, so I will be downvoting many.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
  2. Guatenadian

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 20
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22 (21+1) Hoping for a science victory this time.
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 20
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 20
    Mina El Teniente - 17
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 20
    Willis Tower - 6 (9-3) Not that impressive.
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  3. Xandinho

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 20
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 20
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 20
    Mina El Teniente - 17
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 20 + 1 = 21 A great scientific wonder, and this one is very distinctive. I would like to have at least one wonder of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries.
    Willis Tower - 6 - 3 = 3 There are many other better options for skyscrapers

    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
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  4. Kimiimaro

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 20
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 20
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 20+1=21 - Probably the best choice for a late game religious wonder. According to wikipedia, this was the most visited building in the world in year 2001. It would look great in game, too.
    Mina El Teniente - 17
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Willis Tower - 3-3=0 (ELIMINATED) - It's a very tall black skyscrapper, but I just don't think it's good for a wonder.
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  5. Guandao

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - (20-3)=17 Dominican Republic doesn't need a wonder, and there are plenty of better, more worthy cathedrals back in Europe.
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - (20+1)=21 Andean coastal wonder for the win! Moche are one of my favorite civilizations.
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 17
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20

    You guys really eliminated Willis Tower before mediocre churches and mines? :crazyeye:
     
  6. Xandinho

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17 It's not a church with an impressive structure, I agree, and I do not think it's a priority either. But I do not think it's a mediocre church in general. It is the oldest cathedral in the Americas, and appears to have been the tomb of the remains of Christopher Columbus. Its historical importance is recognized by UNESCO. It can fit into a colonization mechanism, build this church in a colony and gain points of faith and great admiral.
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 17 - 3 = 14 Balancing with the Mine below.
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17
    Tāq Kasrā - 21 + 1 = 22 I am really interested in more Persian wonders.
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2017
  7. Kimiimaro

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    Yep :p

    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 20
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 20
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 21+1=22 - A great choice for a Dutch wonder and a trade wonder too.
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 17-3=14 - The Gifts of the Nile scenario offers a mechanic that would allow a construction of bridge wonders. But I'm not sure if this is the bridge wonder I want in game, when there are several more iconic and better bridges that could go first, like Tower Bridge, Brooklyn Bridge, Golden Gate Bridge or Charles Bridge.
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  8. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - (20+1)=21 It might have to be reduced to a single compound (well Firaxis calls El Castillo "Chichen Itza", and Al-Khazneh "Petra"), but the Chimu kings were buried within their own palaces. Another great choice to represent the Andean coast.
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - (20-3)=17 It's already in the game as the Polish unique building, the sukiennice. Giving Poland a wonder is not a priority for me.
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 14
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  9. Xandinho

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    Acoma Pueblo - 17 - 3 = 14 I'd rather have the Cliff Palace.
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 21 + 1 = 22 The Mayans will probably be guided to science. It makes much sense to give them a scientific wonder.
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 22
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 14
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  10. Kimiimaro

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    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 22
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 22+1=23 - I think this would be a really nice wonder.
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 14-3=11 - It's a famous tourist attraction in Sydney, but I'm afraid there are several better bridgest fo fill the place of a bridge wonder.
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 21
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  11. Siptah

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    What a sad day for the wonders of the world...

    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 22
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 20 (23-3) Crete's own Disneyland
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 20
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 11
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 20
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 22 (21+1) a scientific Wonder should win for once.
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
  12. Kimiimaro

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    I don't understand what do you mean by that.
     
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    US and Israel declared to quit UNESCO.
     
  14. Kimiimaro

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    Oh. I didn't know that. I often check news on the internet, but I didn't notice that one.
     
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    Since the United States and Israel quit UNESCO, then it means that Mount Rushmore or the Western Wall would not receive UNESCO funding.
     
  16. Guandao

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    Um, Mount Rushmore isn't a World Heritage Site, and I wouldn't want it to be one (being carved on Sioux sacred land...).

    No more new American world heritage sites for 3 or 7 years. :p Not sure how long Israel would stay out of UNESCO.

    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 22
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 20 I don't know why it should be downvoted for being "Crete's Disneyland". Hopefully it won't get eliminated before the mines.
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - (20-3)=17 Brazil already has a religious wonder, and there are more important cathedrals in Europe.
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 11
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - (20+1)=21 A great Greco-Roman temple.
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 22
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
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    Sorry to hear about the bad news, definitely a bit puzzled by the United States and Israel's decision.

    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 18 + 1 = 19 I'm just floored by its wonderful designs!
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 22
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 14
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 20
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 17 - 3 = 14 Agreed with the above that Brazil already has a religious wonder. It looks nice but I agree that it isn't a priority.
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 11
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 21
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 22
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
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    It's a shame that the U.S and Israel choose to protest by leaving an organisation whose intent is based on science, education and culture.

    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 19
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 23 (22+1) It's about time a science wonder wins.
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 11 (14-3) There is no way I could ever let this be a wonder.
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 20
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 14
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 11
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 21
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20
    Uraniborg - 22
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     
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    Turns out that it's not the first time the United States withdrew from UNESCO.
     
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    Acoma Pueblo - 14
    Aït Benhaddou - 20
    Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor - 17
    Basílica i Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família - 19
    Bayt al Hikma - 22
    Chan Chan - 21
    Chùa Bút Tháp - 20
    El Caracol of Chichen Itza - 23
    Grand Bazaar of Istanbul - 21
    Great Mosque of Kilwa - 20
    Huaca del Sol - 21
    Kizhi Pogost - 20
    Krakow Cloth Hall - 17
    Lincoln Center - 20
    Lotus Temple - 21
    Mina El Teniente - 11
    Oost-Indisch Huis - 22
    Palace of Knossos - 20
    São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador - 14 This golden church is a Portuguese wonder, not Brazilian :p.
    Sydney Harbour Bridge - 11
    Tāq Kasrā - 22
    TauTona Mine - 14 - 3 = 11 Does not appeal to me as a wonder
    Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek - 21
    Theatre of Sabratha - 21
    Torre del Oro - 20 + 1 = 21 It was the Spanish wonder in Age of Empires II. It is not very impressive, but it can an interesting wonder of trade/colonialism, and even a naval wonder.
    Uraniborg - 22
    Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace) - 20
     

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