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Never before seen wonders II - Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Xandinho, Jul 23, 2017.

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  1. Xandinho

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    Hello everybody. This is the second thread to 'Never before seen wonders' since the creator of the first thread can not keep track it, I felt the need to create a second thread of the kind. You already know the rules.
    Previous thread: Never before seen wonders

    I have analyzed everyone's suggestions and I selected 4 wonders from each continent (Asia, Africa, Europe, North America and South America) and 1 wonder from Oceania, so I selected more one wonder that I thought interesting to include. I hope you like the list, but I think you will not like some of the wonders that I choose. So, let's start...

    Round 3
    1. :trophy: Hwangnyongsa
    2. :trophy2nd: Etchmiadzin Cathedral
    3. :trophy3rd: Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut
    4. :trophy2: Duomo di Milano
    5. :trophy2: Serpent Mound
    6. Royal Palace of Palenque
    7. Buddhas of Bamiyan
    8. Luxor Temple
    9. Osaka Castle
    10. Santuario de Las Lajas
    11. Burj Khalifa
    12. St. Vitus Cathedral
    13. Belem Tower
    14. Catedral de Brasília
    15. Hassan Tower
    16. Royal Exhibition Building
    17. Castle of Good Hope
    18. Casa Rosada
    19. Seattle Space Needle
    20. Westminster Abbey
    21. Centre Block
    22. ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array)

    Round 4
    1. :trophy: Swayambhunath
    2. :trophy2nd: Château Frontenac
    3. :trophy3rd: Etemenanki
    4. :trophy2: Krak des Chevaliers
    5. :trophy2: Dhammayangyi Temple
    6. Naqsh-e Rustam
    7. Palacio de Bellas Artes
    8. Temple of Heaven
    9. Royal Mausoleum of Mauretania
    10. Burg Hohenzollern
    11. Humayun's Tomb
    12. Prambanan
    13. Palácio de Pena
    14. Teatro Colón
    15. Citadel of Qaitbay
    16. Chrám Sv. Barbory
    17. Fasil Ghebbi
    18. Iglesia de Achao
    19. Museo El Castillo
    20. Catedral Primada de Bogota
    21. Colossi of Memnon
    22. Arc de Triomphe
    23. Dunedin Railway Station
    24. Temple of the Great Jaguar
    25. Las Vegas Strip

    Round 5
    1. :trophy: Bayt al-Hikma
    2. :trophy2nd: Uraniborg
    3. :trophy3rd: El Caracol of Chichen Itza
    4. :trophy2: Palace of Knossos
    5. :trophy2: Oost-Indisch Huis
    6. Tāq Kasrā
    7. Grand Bazaar of Istanbul
    8. Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek
    9. Theatre of Sabratha
    10. Torre del Oro
    11. Chan Chan
    12. Chùa Bút Tháp
    13. Aït Benhaddou
    14. Huaca del Sol
    15. Basílica I Temple Expiatori de la Sagrada Família
    16. Lotus Temple
    17. Kizhi Pogost
    18. Great Mosque of Kilwa
    19. Basilica Cathedral of Santa María la Menor
    20. São Francisco Church and Convent of Salvador
    21. Krakow Cloth Hall
    22. Yuanming Yuan (Old Summer Palace)
    23. Acoma Pueblo
    24. TauTona Mine
    25. Sydney Harbour Bridge
    26. Mina El Teniente
    27. Lincoln Center
    28. Willis Tower
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
    Burj Khalifa - 20
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17 (20 - 3) -- Star forts are cool but already adequately covered by the fort improvement.
    Catedral de Brasília - 20
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 20
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21 (20 + 1) -- It's gorgeous, it's historic, it's completely unlike anything in game, and it would be the first (and probably only) Oriental Orthodox wonder in game.
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 20
    Royal Exhibition Building - 20
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 20
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20
    Westminster Abbey - 20
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
    Burj Khalifa - 20
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 20 + 1 = 21 Despite my usual preference for historic cathedrals, I must say that this futuristic cathedral is very beautiful and has a unique design, and would be completely visually distinct on the map and its image would be more impressive at night. Besides, we need more modern wonders.
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 20
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 20
    Royal Exhibition Building - 20 - 3 = 17 It seems to be a beautiful and interesting building, but not so impressive to me
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 20
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20
    Westminster Abbey - 20
     
  4. Manifold

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    There were a lot of good suggestions, where are all going?
     
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    Moderator Action: Please remember that elimination threads are game threads, not general discussion threads. Among the rules for elimination games is the requirement that posts consist of solely of votes (or corrections to votes) and associated reasons for votes. If you want to engage in a broader discussion of the items included in an elimination game (such as the suggested wonders in this thread), please feel free to open a separate discussion thread on that topic.
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
    Burj Khalifa - 20 + 1 = 21 Voting for the tallest building in the world.
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 20
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 20
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 20
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20
    Westminster Abbey - 20 - 3 =17 Way too similar to Notre Dame.
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 20+1=the most unique out of all the Gothic cathedrals and the biggest too
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 20-3=17 it's better to have just one Japanese castle and that's definitely Himeji castle, otherwise it would be redundant
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 20
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20
    Westminster Abbey - 17
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 20+1=21 One of the world's greatest Buddha statue wonders, very ancient, and sadly destroyed by barbarians...
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 17
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - (20-3)=17 Seems like a tourist trap kind of place, what bonus can it give?
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20
    Westminster Abbey - 17
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 20-3=17 - What? No.
    Belem Tower - 20
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 21
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 17
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 20+1=21 - A nice example of a Czech/Bohemian wonder. Also, the game lacks some typical looking gothic cathedral. It's maybe not as iconic as Notre Dame, but it doesn't mean it's not worthy of inclusion.
    Westminster Abbey - 17
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14 (17 - 3) An area of desert with a bunch of radio antennas about it isn't the most inspiring sight.
    Belem Tower - 21 (20 + 1) A symbol of the Age of Discovery/Exploration, which is fitting considering the theme of Civ VI.
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 21
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 17
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 17
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14 Just my opinion: we need an astronomical observatory as a wonder, and this is one of the greatest in the world. It would be an excellent scientific wonder at the end of the game, we have few modern wonders, and even less scientific wonders.
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 21
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 20 - 3 = 17 Interesting, but I think it would be visually similar to Big Ben
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 17 + 1 = 18 Himeji Castle is more impressive than this, but this castle is not included and we do not even know if it will be included, so there is no redundancy right now. And there is a blatant lack of Japanese wonders in the game. Japan is definitely one of the main civilizations of the game, and it is the only staple of base game that does not have a wonder. In my opinion, a Japanese wonder is more than high priority, It is simply a great urgency.
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 17

    @Manifold Most of the suggestions were from Europe, but to not focus on just one continent, I've limited 4 wonders per continent. And some places are difficult to find really "wonderful" wonders in the common concept of wonder.
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 21+1=22 I'd like to see them immortalised in the game so they won't be forgotten since they were destroyed
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 17
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 17-3=14 there are better choices for a Gothic cathedral or even a wonder in London
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23 (22+1) as luigilime said
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - 17
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11 (14-3) not a whole tile and ww worth
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 21
    Centre Block - (17-3)=14 Similar to Big Ben in style, and might as well make the US Capitol a wonder if this is worthy of being in the game
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 21
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 20+1=21 A good choice for a Korean wonder, and a perfect Pagoda wonder
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18 (21 - 3) -- Sorry, Xandinho: this structure says "airport terminal" more than "house of worship" to me. :(
    Centre Block - 14
    Duomo di Milano - 21
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22 (21 + 1) -- An excellent opportunity for something quite different from other options.
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11 -- Looks like Notre Dame? It doesn't look anything like Notre Dame beyond having two towers, which is a pretty common feature of Gothic cathedrals. :undecide: That being said, of the two Gothic cathedrals I suggested I would have preferred Chartres Cathedral...
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18
    Centre Block - 14-3=11 - I'm sorry, but it just doesn't say "wonder" to me.
    Duomo di Milano - 21+1=22 - Very interresting, beautiful unique looking cathedral that I'd love to see in game.
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 14 - 3 = 11 I'm sorry, but satellite dishes aren't a wonder in my book.
    Belem Tower - 21
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18
    Centre Block - 11
    Duomo di Milano - 22
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 20 + 1 = 21 Stunning building in a stunning location.
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 8 (11 - 3) As well as being historically significant, Wonders should also be visually impressive as well. ALMA isn't that for me, I'm afraid. However, I am in favour of more science-oriented Wonders such as the ALBA Synchrotron or the Palace of Culture and Science.
    Belem Tower - 22 (21 + 1) Another point for the same reason as before.

    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18
    Centre Block - 11
    Duomo di Milano - 22
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 21
    Seattle Space Needle - 17
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 8
    Belem Tower - 22
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18
    Centre Block - 11
    Duomo di Milano - 22
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 20 + 1 = 21 A Mesoamerican wonder that is not another Pyramid? Yes please. And this would be distinct, similar with nothing in the game.
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 21
    Seattle Space Needle - 17 - 3 = 14 Not interesting, in my opinion.
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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    ALMA (Atacama Large Millimeter Array) - 8-3=5 first nearing the chopping block I see
    Belem Tower - 22
    Buddhas of Bamiyan - 23
    Burj Khalifa - 21
    Casa Rosada - 20
    Castle of Good Hope - 17
    Catedral de Brasília - 18
    Centre Block - 11
    Duomo di Milano - 22+1=23 wonderful cathedral
    Etchmiadzin Cathedral - 22
    Hassan Tower - 20
    Hwangnyongsa - 21
    Luxor Temple - 20
    Mortuary Temple of Hatshepsut - 20
    Osaka Castle - 18
    Royal Exhibition Building - 17
    Royal Palace of Palenque - 21
    Santuario de Las Lajas - 21
    Seattle Space Needle - 14
    Serpent Mound - 20
    St. Vitus Cathedral - 21
    Westminster Abbey - 11
     
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