Dessalines was a tyrant who was overthrown by his loyal generals after carrying out a genocide of the white and mixed populations of Haiti. The people celebrated his death and even desecrated his corpse.
I'm not sure how he's viewed among modern Haitians, but I'd be surprised if he was more well-liked than Louverture, who indeed sided with the French over Spain, but only because Napoleon had promised abolition, something which the Spanish were trying to manipulate everybody into believing wasn't true in order to rile up anti-French sentiment during the French Revolutionary wars.
Louverture worked arduously to protect Haiti and make her prosper while his detractors wanted nothing but anarchy and self-destructive revenge based on falsehoods and fears. He was ultimately arrested by French authorities over suspicions of sedition, allowing his successors to do exactly what he fought to prevent-- and the rest speaks for itself.
Only if we're talking about Ancient or Classical Syria. Zenobia would make a great leader...It's a shame the Epigraphic South Arabian languages are so poorly attested; one of the South Arabian kingdoms would make a great addition. I suppose they could speak a Modern South Arabian language, but the exact relationship between ESA and MSA is unclear (but clearly not filial).For the Middle East, my choice would be either Oman, Yemen, or Syria.
Which is a shame. The Ancient and Classical Middle East could easily be (and honestly ought to be) as overcrowded as Europe. I'd love to see Sumer, Babylon, Assyria, Achaemenid and Sassanid Persia, Mitanni, Phoenicia, Aram, Elam, Hittites, Egypt (not led by a Greek, pleaseTalking about the Middle East the only ones I can probably see getting is the Ottomans along with Assyria/and or Babylon
While we desperately need a Central Asian civ (see Bite's map), I'd go for Sogdiana or a similar Silk Road state.I'm not really familiar with Khazaria other than it being a Jewish nation
Similarly Hungary and Byzantium for me with Gaul number three. I'd rather not see the Celts at all than see another Civ4/5 style abomination.My top 2 choices for brand new European civs would be Hungary and Gaul
I'd love Phoenicia, but I believe that Carthage is the closest option for them. Judah or ancient Israel would not happen either although they would fit well with the new religious game and give us a Civ that prefers Judaism. I see the Hittites as the next best options but even then Anatolia will probably be crowded.Which is a shame. The Ancient and Classical Middle East could easily be (and honestly ought to be) as overcrowded as Europe. I'd love to see Sumer, Babylon, Assyria, Achaemenid and Sassanid Persia, Mitanni, Phoenicia, Aram, Elam, Hittites, Egypt (not led by a Greek, please), Judah, Parthia, etc.
I'm not really familiar with Central Asia at all, but I think that just Scythia is fine. The Kushan Empire that also encompassed Afghanistan and Pakistan could be interesting.While we desperately need a Central Asian civ (see Bite's map), I'd go for Sogdiana or a similar Silk Road state.
Luckily I don't see the Celts coming at all. If they did they sure wouldn't have Edinburgh as their capital.Similarly Hungary and Byzantium for me with Gaul number three. I'd rather not see the Celts at all than see another Civ4/5 style abomination.
People want a civ from the Caribbean. The best options are somewhat poor though with Cuba, Jamaica, Trinidad, and Curacao being the front runners.
Agreed. Phoenicia's problem is a lack of leaders who are more than just a name.I'd love Phoenicia, but I believe that Carthage is the closest option for them.
I agree that we're unlikely to see them, though calling them "Judah" would blunt the political backlash, I think.Judah or ancient Israel would not happen either although they would fit well with the new religious game and give us a Civ that prefers Judaism.
If we can have four Greek leaders, three of them in Greece...I see the Hittites as the next best options but even then Anatolia will probably be crowded.
Except Scythia's not in Central Asia. Scythia's in the Pontic Steppe and Eastern Europe.I'm not really familiar with Central Asia at all, but I think that just Scythia is fine.
On the one hand, I don't want the amalgam Celts back. On the other, I do think it's problematic that Iron Age Europe beyond Greece and Rome is entirely left out. I do hope we get either the Gauls or the Goths to make up for that.Luckily I don't see the Celts coming at all.
Which they shouldn't have had in the first place.If they did they sure wouldn't have Edinburgh as their capital.
"Elizabeth Swan leads the Pirates in Sid Meier's Civilization VI. We were going to have Jack Sparrow, but Johnny Depp wanted to charge too much for using his likeness."This might be a bit goofy but the if the choices for Caribbean civs are poor what about having Pirates?
They did originate in Central Asia though and eventually migrated west to where Persia and Greece contacted them. They start in Central Asia in TSL games as well at least.Except Scythia's not in Central Asia. Scythia's in the Pontic Steppe and Eastern Europe.I know that it makes sense to associate an Iranian steppe nomad culture with Central Asia, because there were a lot of them there, but the Scythians ironically weren't one of them. Scythian is probably the source of Iranian loanwords in Slavic. Macedon and Persia have cities in Central Asia, but neither is a Central Asian civ.
With Scotland in the game I meant to say that indeed the Celt blob, I believe, is gone. The Gauls are probably the most likely other that could come in over any other Celtic tribe or modern day countries like Ireland and Wales.On the one hand, I don't want the amalgam Celts back. On the other, I do think it's problematic that Iron Age Europe beyond Greece and Rome is entirely left out. I do hope we get either the Gauls or the Goths to make up for that.
Although to me it seems like the best idea for a Caribbean Civ, having Nassau or Port Royal as a city-state would definitely work out too."Elizabeth Swan leads the Pirates in Sid Meier's Civilization VI. We were going to have Jack Sparrow, but Johnny Depp wanted to charge too much for using his likeness."It's not a bad idea, but we already have pirates in the game: they're the barbarian ships. Also the Caribbean pirates never really unified: Barbary corsairs would make more sense, but at that rate we'd be better off just going with Morocco again (or the Almohads).
Except Scythia's not in Central Asia. Scythia's in the Pontic Steppe and Eastern Europe.I know that it makes sense to associate an Iranian steppe nomad culture with Central Asia, because there were a lot of them there, but the Scythians ironically weren't one of them. Scythian is probably the source of Iranian loanwords in Slavic. Macedon and Persia have cities in Central Asia, but neither is a Central Asian civ.
So did all of us who speak an Indo-European language in all likelihood.They did originate in Central Asia though
Whether or not that makes sense is whether Tomyris' capital is Pokrovka, Russia or Pokrovka, Kyrgyzstan.They start in Central Asia in TSL games as well at least.
I wish we'd gotten Medieval Ireland instead of Medieval Scotland, but since that ship has sailed I do hope that if we get any more Celtic civs it will be the Gauls.With Scotland in the game I meant to say that indeed the Celt blob, I believe, is gone. The Gauls are probably the most likely other that could come in over any other Celtic tribe or modern day countries like Ireland and Wales.
Yes, we need more Greeks.We Can Always Go For The Indo-Greek Kingdom, Which Is A Viable Central Asian Civ![]()
"Elizabeth Swan leads the Pirates in Sid Meier's Civilization VI. We were going to have Jack Sparrow, but Johnny Depp wanted to charge too much for using his likeness."It's not a bad idea, but we already have pirates in the game: they're the barbarian ships. Also the Caribbean pirates never really unified: Barbary corsairs would make more sense, but at that rate we'd be better off just going with Morocco again (or the Almohads).
I never really got into Endless Legends (I own it, I've played a couple games, but it never really became a standby), but I love ES2. It's my go-to 4X game at the moment. Haven't picked up Supremacy yet, but Vaulters adds some great content.I actually bought ES2 and EL last year but I played them both for like 10 minuets. I'm sure they are really good but I didn't really want to play another complicated turn based strategy game. Would you recommend giving them another try though?
They're a little linear--I wish your choices changed more--but they're still a great concept. They make it feel like you're moving towards something more than just victory. Some of the side quests are also immensely entertaining, especially the ones based on what populations you have in your empire.I did see that you get interesting quests/ missions that are specific to your faction.
That's a very light list for Eurasia.Eurasia:
Portugal (John I or Afonso I)
Bulgaria (Simeon)
Turks (Attaturk)
Africa:
Ethiopia (Menelik II)
Mali (Mansa Musa)
Americas:
Comanche (Buffalo Hump)
Tlingit (Gush X'een)
Maya(Lady K'abel)
Inca(Huyana Capac)
Some polynesian civ be it Fiji, Samoa, Maori, or Hawai'i
That's a very light list for Eurasia.While I too would love to stack the deck with New World civs, I feel like there are too many missing Middle Eastern civs: one of the Akkadian-speaking civs (whether Babylon or Assyria) and the Ottomans in particular, to say nothing of Carthage (culturally if not geographically Middle Eastern). Actually, it makes one realize that Civ6 is going to be missing some major civilizations if we don't either get two more expansions or another round of DLC...