New Civilizations
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Jabie
Wanted in Monte Carlo...
Based on the various scenarios from Civ 4, I'd suggest Persians, Greeks and (possibly) the Carthaginians are probably good for a shout.
Ekmek
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I already have the carthaginians and two greek tribes (Ionians, Dorians). THe persians sounds like a decent idea - I think the Egyptians would be good too. Thx
GeoModder
Deity
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Well, here's a map from the Mediterranean anno 250 BC...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_map_220BC.PNG
It all depends on what era you let the mod start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_map_220BC.PNG
It all depends on what era you let the mod start.
henryMCVII
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Just an idea... I would love if it turns more "city based" then nation based. For example all ex european nations become "phoenician" now, one player is from Byblos, the next from Sidon, another one from Tyros. Got the idea? This way becoming independent from home port makes more sense, I think.
Ekmek
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Phoenicia (carthage), Greeks, and Romans are already in.
Blue-moustache
Chieftain
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Hi, i'm new here. I have research material for the age of the Phoenicians, Greeks and Etruscans, and their various little empires around the med sea.. this scenario is a mod that i have been interested in for a good while. My thinking on this mod (sorry to but in) but like having the Levant/Greek area as the main base area.. east of what is now Italy and Greece.. I dont know how far you are with the map, but my idea was to have a west med-sea area, and the conflicts between the various ethnics.. but that's just my idea, like Tunisia was the main base for the Cathage tribe, the Greeks were keen on southern Italy etc.. (if i can be any help.. i am keen, not up to speed with the modding, but keen on the map-work).
i got this map from world-wind a nasa site..
i got this map from world-wind a nasa site..
cybrxkhan
Asian Xwedodah
I think the various Greek city states could even be separated - for example, having Athens and Sparta and Thebes. I think something similar to this was already stated above, but the thing is especially for Ancient Greece, it's famous for having competing city states.
Ekmek
on steam: ekmek_e
thx vebear i'll work on th buttons
Ekmek
on steam: ekmek_e
ok, i'll fix it.
lumpthing
generic lump
I like this idea. It would reconcile historical accuracy with the Colonization set-up: a handful of independent sea-faring states spreading across a 'virgin' world of non-sea-faring, non-port-planting non-competitors.
The Mediterranean's later sea-faring colonists (greeks, romans) colonized a Mediterranean already filled with ports and sea-faring competitors, so it doesn't fit so well with the Colonization set-up.
If excluding favorite civs like the Greeks and Romans would be too unpopular, I guess a mix of major colonizer city-states would be nice too – e.g. Rome, Tyre, Eretria, Corinth, Miletus (ignoring mismatching timelines in the same way that the European powers arrive unhistorically at the New World at the same time). Maybe major city-states which didn't go in for colonizing (such as Athens) could be represented by a special class of super-powerful native cities.
I don't think Egypt or Persia should be civs. They were land-based empires and the whole exploration/colonizing/long-distance trade focus just doesn't fit with them. Their expansion was about establishing tributes and vassals, not colonization, and those things just aren't represented in Colonization. I think Egypt should be a very advanced native tribe and Persia should probably be ignored entirely (a native tribe wouldn't do justice to it's historical actions as aggressor of the Phoenician and Greek city-states). Maybe Persia's presence could be represented by random events (e.g. your home city is paying a hefty tribute to Persia, so demand for luxury goods has fallen since people are poorer).
