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Good turns, SW. too bad we didn't get Smolensk, though. :( You probably could've just broken the alliance. I don't think our rep will be needed much anymore. ;)

I haven't looked at the save yet, so I'll do that later.

Evincar, welcome back! So you were in Rome...cool. :) If you want, you can go, since you've haven't played in a while. Or I can go, since I'll probably have the next 2 days off (snow day, then parent-teacher conferences on Wednesday). Or Penwa can go if he gets back in time.

EDIT: Looked at the save. I didn't realize China was so far behind in tech!
Also, we have 66% pop, and 55% land. Do we want Domination, or would we rather go for Conquest (I've never achieved this victory, mainly because I'm lazy :rolleyes: )? If we went for Conquets, we would have to wait for Marines.
 
I’ll do 6 turns since SW only did 9.

Pre-turn – Change preferences first. Since we’ll have to put up with Russia for another half of an age, I start starving cities with Russian citizens. I’ve decided we have too much money. Rush temples in Hannover, Yakutsk and Yekaterinburg. Rush barracks in Manchester (it still has a warrior). Change New Canterbury from Wealth to Harbor, and rush it. Rush harbor in The Mumbles. Rush Musket in Moscow. Rush cav in Novgorod (kind of worried with all the Chinese galleys around). Coventry needs a taxman to keep from rioting, so change production to temple.

Sign peace with Russia and get Krasnoyarsk, World and Territory map, and 7 gold.
Declare on Osman (but make sure to move that galley in his territory out first). Capture 2 workers on Osman’s west coast.

Attack on Iznik: Nelson’s Army kills the first spear with no loss of hp. Order our newly named 2nd Cavalry Army (what I always use to name Armies) to attack and capture the city, again with no loss. 2 resistors

IBT – Mao orders us to leave his territory, and captures a Russian worker outside of Krasnoyarsk (he had 2 Riders just outside the city, so he probably would have captured it if we didn’t make peace).
We are now in the Industrial Age.
Newcastle also riots. Look through cities and stop Orleans from rioting (and switch it to a market) as well as Hastings.
Resistance in Iznik ends.

1150 (1) – ToG -> Steam Power (railroads will help a lot at home, since I’m afraid of an invasion there, especially since just about none of our cities have defenders). Increase Science to 90% to get SP in 4.

Moscow musket->cav. Philly riots (whoops, must’ve missed that one…). Novgorod cav->musket. Canterbury cav->barracks (we have to stop making reg units). Karachi worker->cannon. Yekaterinburg temple->cav. Yakutsk temple-musket. Leeds worker->cannon. Hannover temple->musket. Manchester barracks->aque. Leicester worker->worker. The Mumbles harbor->temple. New Canterbury harbor->wealth (1-tile island).
FINALLY I can start the actual turn.

Attack on Uskudar: Elite cav attacks, loses 1hp. 2nd Elite attacks, loses no hp, and captures the city. 3 resistors. 1 more elite captures worker.

Attack on Bursa: Vet cav attacks, loses 1 hp. 2nd vet loses 2 hp. 3rd vet loses 1 hp, and only a Horse is showing. 4th vet kills the horse with no loss, captures the city and a settler.

Use an elite cav left over from the battle for Uskudar to attack a spear outside Bursa and after losing 4 hp—we get a Leader named Cornwallis! The 3rd Cav army is made.
Kill various units around the cities, and march the other two armies towards Istanbul.
Switch York from Mil. Acad. to Newton’s, also due in 14 turns.
Rush temples in Coventry and Hastings. Rush spear in New London. Rush market in Orleans. Switch Washington from Granary to Courthouse.

IBT – A reg cav is killed by a longbow. 2 resistors quelled in Bursa. Philly and Newcastle stop rioting. Resistance in Uskudar ends.

1160 (2) – New York bank->barracks. Orleans market->worker. Boston settler->man o war. Hastings temple->cathedral (prebuild for hospital). Calcutta court->market. Coventry temple->cathedral (hospital). Rouen settler->cannon. New London spear->harbor. New Warwick worker->worker.

Battle for Istanbul: We have 3 armies (11/17, 9/11, 10/13 health) and 5 full health vet cavs outside Istanbul. It is going down. 3rd Army attacks, is attacked by a treb that misses, and wins with no loss. Nelson’s Army attacks, is shot at and missed by a longbow, and wins losing 3 hp. 2nd Army attacks, loses 1 hp. Nelson’s Army attacks again, loses 1 hp. Use a vet cav, and win with no loss. A longbow showing now. Attack with the 3rd Army, and win with no loss. A horse showing now. Attack with Nelson’s Army, lose no hp, and capture a worker, 2 settlers, and a treb. 8 resistors.

New Liverpool founded NW of Macao -> temple.

IBT - 5 resistors quelled in Istanbul. Resistance in Bursa ends.

1170 (3) – Jaipur cav->harbor (doesn’t have a barracks…add that to queue—first time I’ve ever used that). Reading settler->worker. Rush market in Leipzig.
I have sent a galleon with a settler up north to explore for possible land. I called it the Santa Maria.

Attack on Izmit (new capital): If we capture this city, we will get some silks, helping greatly with happiness. 3rd Army attacks, loses 2 hp. Attack again and…we get the city…that was quick…5 resistors.

The Ottomans have just one city left: Edrine.

IBT – Resistances in Istanbul and Izmit end.

1180 (4) – Leipzig market->cav. Philly market->library. Brighton barracks->musket. Portsmouth worker->worker.

Attack on Edrine: Nelson’s Army attacks, is hit by a treb, and loses 3 hp. Attack again and lose 1 hp. Attack with vet cav, lose 1 hp. Another vet cav loses no hp. 3rd vet retreats doing no damage. 4th vet attacks, takes 1 hp, and eliminates the Ottomans.

Settlers started in all Ottoman cities, but should be changed if we decide to go for a Conquest victory. Steam Power due next turn.

IBT – Yekaterinburg deposes!!! :mad:

1190 (5) – Steam Power->Medicine due in 4 @ 80%. Atlanta worker->Man o’ War. Warwick cav->uni. Oxford cannon->harbor. Rush temples in New Liverpool, New Coventry and Yaroslavl’.
Found New Dover SE of Frankfurt.

1200 (6) – New York barracks->cav. Yaroslavl’ temple->musket. Canterbury barracks->uni. Jaipur harbor->barracks. New Coventry temple->market. New Liverpool temple->harbor. Any of these can be changed.

New Brighton founded between Uskudar and Bursa -> worker.

For the next person: I have the 3rd Cav Army in Hamburg, Nelson’s Army in Edrine, and the 2nd in Izmit still. The MDI Army is NW of Nuremburg along with 3 Cavs. In other words: we are not yet ready for the war with China.
The settlers being built in Ottoman cities can all be changed, but I was planning on filling in the holes with them. We probably already have too many settlers, though. There’re 3 settlers S of Uskudar, 1 ready to be built if you like the spot (I don’t, but the area’s mountainous).
You can continue exploring the north if you want, but I doubt we’ll find anymore land up there.
Also, start building those railroads.

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evincar, its your choice to play 5 or 10 turns.
most of us use the IA for a 5 turn rotation due to turn length. if your turns somehow turn out to be shorter, then i guess you should feel free to play 10.
my persoanl limit is 2-2.5 hours max in real life, whatever fits....
 
1200 (0): Fine, let's prepare to deliver the killing blow. New Dover rushes temple in hopes of pushing the inciense to us. Some minor changes here and there. I decided to settle, too much corruption, may as well buy another city and take advantage of land/support.

1210(1): Liverpool Uni->barrack; Dover cav->musket; Hydebarad musket->market; New dover temple->cannon. Incense is displayed to fall into our hands, but it doesn't actually (?). It just seems that we are spread too thin, and that we need more workers in our homeland. Trying to move to solve it

1220(2): Delhi settler (Why do we want more anyway? :O)->court. Istanbul Temple->market. Nottingham bank->library Kolhapur worker->worker. Chittagong cav->aque (argh, should have switched before). New nottingham falls in Disorder!! never mind..TONS of railroad ordered, specially around london. Medicine next turn, no more buckets to grab.
IBT: China makes weird moves, including moving several riders into a city close to us.
1230(3): Rheims settler->worker. PLEASE stop this settler diarrhea, why are we doing them anyway? Oxford Harbor->university. Started sanitation in 4 turns. Really not much to move

1240(4): Madras worker-> worker; Jaipur Barrack->musket. More railroads, London gets some nice production boost.
IBT :lol: :lol: :lol: China demands wines!! Bug off, insignificant barbarian. He doesn't even declare war.
1250 (5): Liverpool Barrack->cav Brighton musket->bis. some more workers. Frankfurt built a temple, which is why they keep the inciense :(. Unloaded troops in Uskudar. I left a lot of galleons to move, since I really don't know what to do with them. Made some last turn rushes, hope you like them, and if you don't, well you still have over 3000 gold :P
 
Good turns, Evincar.

I agree that we may have too many settlers...we should probably join some back into cities. Probably change most, if not all, of the settler builds in Ottoman lands.
 
I'll play tomorrow unless we hear from Penwa.

Evincar said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: China demands wines!! Bug off, insignificant barbarian. He doesn't even declare war.....
....Unloaded troops in Uskudar. I left a lot of galleons to move, since I really don't know what to do with them....
i do! It's time to treat the Chinese to a lesson in English Diplomacy :D. China has a lot of spare troops so I'll check out the position carefully then begin the invasion.

Anyone think we should stay at peace :mischief:?
 
i started most of these settlers exactly for the purpose of either:
1- join them into better cities (as we have quite a few high food, low shield cities)
2- raze and replace our new lands in china (avoiding the annoying flips and revolts)

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the arrows are the proposed attack path.
we have 3 prongs, each shorter than the others.
they are meant to draw forces from china, leaving the rear undefended.

i cant look at save, so map is only guesswork, but seems doable in 7-10 turns.
 
Looks pretty good, SW, although I don't think there are many forces in Hamburg (unless Evincar brought some more there). Don't forget about the army in Izmit, though.
 
RL issues are getting very tough for me right now - Mothers's Day and all that.

I'm too tired to play tonight and tomorrow I need to complete a report for a major customer so won't feel much like it tomorrow evening either. You can skip me if you like.
 
soul_warrior said:
penwa - gone away
evincar - played
iroquoisplisken - went a set before
Soul_warrior - i guess its up to me now, hopefully will play tommorow night.
perugia - skipped due to RL

I got my report out and am now back, is anyone else there? Can you play it today soul_warrior - I can play tomorrow if it helps.
 
nomods_1250ad

pre turn - wake up LOTS of workers. wake lots of troops, too. move some troops closer to china.
spend around 1500g on temples, and troops near china. were VERY close to winning (4% to go)
i demand china's Incense and dyes. he tells me to cluck a duck. i declare.
i take Chinan (raze and replace), Frankfurt (raze and replace) cost me 1 cav, Heidelburg (raze and replace) taken by Nelson on his own, Konigsberg brings us Cromwell's Army (raze and replace), Nurenberg loses us a cav and isnt taken yet.

1- lose Krasnoyarsk and Yaruslav' to china. some defense. they chinese swarm me with MDI's.
build lots of units (cannon in non-rax towns, cav in rest, some muskets for riflemen)
Nurenberg (raze and replace), Shantung (raze and replace), Cromwell warms it up and 3rd Cav army takes Berlin (raze and replace),

2- Sanitation in > Nationalism in 4 @ -28gpt
lose some to china. kill some chinese. clearing room for our settlers.
get some unhappiness, so i might just sign peace soon (after clearing enough land ofcourse)
Yaroslav' is taken back.
cromwell is redlined, trying to block that SoD, and runs for the mountains to heal.

3- lose Orenburg. mainly healing up.
LOTS of UNHAPPY FACES. up lux to 30
Yekaterineburg is taken and razed.
start landing the settlers in place.

4- london finishes SHAKESPEAR's and starts on MILITARY ACADEMY.
York finishes Newton's > hospital.
New leeds, New reading are built.
wellington is born in New Oxford. will ship him china side next turn.

5- China and Russia sign peace. what next? will they ally against us?

we got to the point that we MUST stop the fight.
i invite mao to talk. i tell him i want his cash and the former russian cities (orenburg, Vladivostok and Rostov) he agrees.
we have peace.
we also have about 3-5 settlers on the go, and 65% of land.
i dont think we will have another war.
New Birmingham is built.

6- just wondered if i will get the END GAME screen.
no such luck.
then i wait a bit and i did win it :D

here are the pix and stats.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nomods_1250_faces.jpg

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nomods_1250_topcities.jpg

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/nomods_1250_victorypoint.jpg

very nice game, mates.
 
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