New government

Arkey

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How can I make a new government type in Civ3. I'm thinking of making a new one called constitutional monarchy. It should be necessary to have researched monarchy and democracy (anyone got a good suggestion to other techs necessary?). The precense of a leader figure should decrease war weariness, and the government type should be much similar to democracy, but there should also be a minus to balance the government. Anyone got some suggestions for the plusses and minusses of constitutional monarchy?

But my greatest problem is: How do I make a new type of government? (without replacing old ones).

Hope you can help:)
 
open Civ3mod.bic by double clicking on it..... edit rules..... government tab

then you click the add button. I did that quite a lot myself already. Try it.
 
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So is your constitutional monarchy similar to the parliamentary system currently in place in England?
 
Constitutional monarchy just means that there is an elected king for life. The parliamentary system is more democratic than the one in the US, hardly a monarchy.
 
Originally posted by ComradeRed
Constitutional monarchy just means that there is an elected king for life. The parliamentary system is more democratic than the one in the US, hardly a monarchy.

I don't remember electing Queen Lizzy...
 
A constitutional monarchy is a parliamentary democracy in which the non-executive head of state is hereditary instead of elected. A parliamentary democracy is a system in which an elected assembly, a parliament, is sovereign (forming the executive itself). This is distinct from presidential system, in which executive power is given to a directly-elected head of state, while the assembly is restricted to legislative functions.

A parliamentary system can be more or less democratic than a presidential one, depending on the electoral system(s). At one extreme are the British and American systems, and I don´t know which is really less democratic. Both effectively limit political power to two parties by using a first-past-the-post system which ignores geographically dispersed votes: a 1% share of the overall vote that´s concentrated in a single constituency is more valuable than 10% spread evenly among all. The result is that artificial majorities are created (e.g. most post-1945 British governments have been formed on the basis of 40-45% of the vote for the governing party).

The other extreme is a party-list system, as was used in the Weimar republic (I don´t know off-hand where it´s used now). In this system, parliamentary seats are distributed on the basis of the percentage of the vote won by each party, so a 10% share is ten times as good as 1%, no matter what. This arguably gives too much power to the parties, however, since it´s the parties that create the lists. The result is there´s almost no way to get rid of high-ranking party officials (who get the best places on the list, of course!). The other important weakness is the lack of a link between each elector and a member of parliament; the vote is only for a party and not for any particular person.

Most systems try to find a middle-ground, in various ways. The Imperial German system was similar to the British one, but with a second round to ensure an absolute majority for every winning candidate. France currenty uses such a system, though within a semi-presidential one. The post-1949 German solution was to provide two votes: one for an individual member, and another for a party, with some restrictions to keep out fringe parties. This prevents the problem of artificial majorities, while trying to duplicate the benefits of the link between each elector and a member of parliament. It also makes it less impossible to remove individuals high on the list, since directly-elected members take precedence. In practice, however, that problem exists, and even the personal vote tends to be very party-based (but this is also true with the personal votes under the British and American systems).

There are a lot of other systems too, each with strengths and weaknesses. The structure of the executive (parliamentary or presidential) doesn´t really matter so much, but the structure of a second house/chamber can be very important, especially in federal systems where it safeguards the rights of individual states.

Hmm, now that I´ve finished my rant, I think constitutional monarchy would be a good addition. :) Maybe you could add the Magna Charta as a wonder.

The trouble for me is I´d want to use democratic socialism *and* constitutional monarchy. Economic and political systems really aren´t the same thing except in totalitarian systems like Marxist socialism or fascism.
 
The type of election that you were mentioning is called proportional Rep, it is the most used system if you want to see a good example look at Israel, and Russia. They will show you how bad things can get with that system. Most Europen nations use it, or a mixed system (PR and single member district..what the US uses). I would fill in some other gaps that you had but i just finished writing Poly Sci paper on this topic, no more ahhhh. I wouldn't mind seeing types of democrocy set ups, ie Presidential, presidential-parlimentary, and parlimentary. I'm not sure what you would do to make them diffrent. For a negitive to constitutional monarchy is the cost of upkeep of the monarch.
 
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