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New Triad Platform

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game IV: Citizens' started by Ballazic, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. Ballazic

    Ballazic King

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    After talking to all the leaders of the Triad these are the revisions to the Triad platform. We will probably change things alittle for term 2 elections but as you see, we feel quite a few of the oppositions complaints were legit. We want to make a system that is more fun for non primefaction members. And also more legit as far as accountablitly.

    Ballazic’s Stele


    Tech
    That beginning after today’s turn chat, we are going to have tech proposal thread where the govt and its opposition will list proposed 3 tech strings, after which a poll will be set up and the nation vote on which 3 tech string is the best. If our proposal is not in a majority support, we will revise things and implement it.

    Military Power
    The armed forces, strategy, defense etc is going to be changed a little. While overall defense strategy will still be led by the follower of the way of the shield, each city’s faction that runs it or governor will be charged with individual city defence but is still accountable to both war leaders, the leader of the way of the shield runds a defensive war. Under our coalition offensive arms etc, war and strategy promotions is run by the warlords faction. In the next 3 turn chats there will be a military city constructed.

    Religion
    The Coalition is loyal to the church of Giruvegan and it will be the state religion as soon as a respective faith spreads in our lands. The protectors of the Faith will lead the political side of faith in our nation as well as faith city being built in the paradise hills.

    Arete
    Our lovely capital will still be managed by a the follower of the way of the people.

    Cities in general
    While they may be led in an authoritarian manner all cities will have players choosing to be citizens and those citizens can voice their concerns etc. While our coalition is still at heart an authoritarian regime. We are trying to move towards participation from all citizens and non-partisan actions initiatives. These councils and discussions can be a launch pad for city wide leadership.

    Triad Consul
    A consul will be made up of leaders from all three coalition member factions. And they will meet weekly with decisions and directives, all decisions and votes will be public access, but not discussions as these are private. In general Any decision made by a coalition member will be made in pre and post turn chat reports. All this along with screenshots, saves, description will be made accessible to the public along ai actions and random events.

    Turn chats
    Will be held weekly should the prime faction be victorious for the second term.

    2nd term election
    Will be held tentatively on the 5th of may till the 8th, this will be the date unless the last turn chat is delayed to long.


    Goals for these three turn sets

    -To research more advanced Religions techs (med. Priest) along with math, currency etc
    -To improve and build at least 2 more cities
    -To build an offensive army that we can use to attack the Spanish
    -to sign open borders with Spain, and spy on them assess their military strength and then set an appropriate strategy to conquer them.
    -To sign open borders to acquire a religion from Spain rather then go for a chancing CoL quest for confuscism.
    -To have atleast town council in Arete that will set an example for other cities to follow
     
  2. Rex rgis of Ter

    Rex rgis of Ter Me I'm a Creator

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    This looks very sound Ballazic. I think you can expect my vote in the coming election, but can you be more clear on your aims of religion? Also, are you going to invade Spain, and when do you intend to do so?

    The idea of a city council is intruiging. I take that it will be Philosopher members only. Finally, how do you plan on divying up the final tiles of land outside Arete?
     
  3. Ballazic

    Ballazic King

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    Well, we are actually having a war triad council meeting before the next turnset. Afterwhich we will anounce our strategy. I personally am partial to quick rush as the spanish are currently weak. We have open borders with them right now and hopefully their religion will spread in our lands soon. I am not going to announce anything to concrete yet, cause i need to talk to fellow consul members.

    Actually my city council is going to be a nonpartisan body having citizens from all guilds/factions. This body can still be overuled by the govt, but it will serve as an advisory council for the city.

    Lastly, We still don't know yet. Another issue the consul will discus.
     
  4. Duke Blackstone

    Duke Blackstone John Marchman

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    Once we eventualy take over babylon the IWMF would trade almost anything to have control. You seem to be giving most fractions citystates. Is this sutible bribe cheap enough for the Triad? We might even stop causing those nasty, chaotic revolutions that break the holy peace.
     
  5. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Techs.

    I think for techs, we should rather have a forecasted maximum of 30 turn plans, since 3 techs would be appropriate for 3 simpler techs. The core idea is that we fill up a playsession with research, and not lock the research to more than that playsession. However, the argument could cover the long term implications of picking that option as well as plans for future tech routes.

    Government and Military

    I think that each city should have a special say in an area of government. Arete could handle Foreign Policy, Warlord City of course War and Scouting (troop movements and promotions basically, as well as Warlord city Production), New Giruvegan could handle wonders, religion, culture and commerce where KWPs new city would be a commercial powerhouse as I see it.

    I think we need to alter Triad to accomodate for the new cities outside the original three cities, setting up a system of semi-independent city states with direct elections of the citizens registered there. There should be a city census system between all cities, that are mutually exclusive. Players not caring about city decision rights (game players, rules people, principled people, anti-role players etc) are free to remain non-registered, but forfeit city privileges for voting over city development, and would be considered living in the countryside or in the wilds.


    For the Triad objectives (this is a personal view, not Warlord Faction, which may be different from mine)


    -To research more advanced Religions techs (med. Priest) along with math, currency etc

    I think the priority should be "Alphabet", and trade all we can before we declare Spain war. Then we need Mathematics to chop forests more effectively and to build aqueducts to provide much needed health in overcrowded cities.

    -To improve and build at least 2 more cities

    KWPs preferred city and one more? I suggest each of these cities should belong to a faction group, either Legion give away a city to yet another new faction, or export the Legion citizens without land to the new city.

    -To build an offensive army that we can use to attack the Spanish

    Horse-archers are on the table, and I recommend we split the two planned Horse Archers, one guarding southern copper and prepare for initiation of war should they attempt to improve it and the other fighting wars against barbarians in the Northern Wastes from New Giruvegan.

    -to sign open borders with Spain, and spy on them assess their military strength and then set an appropriate strategy to conquer them.

    Yes, after we traded all available techs with them, we attack.

    -To sign open borders to acquire a religion from Spain rather then go for a chancing CoL quest for confuscism.

    Yes, much easier to just open borders and get Hinduism, then remove Spain, a black widow strategy (the spider), breed and kill.

    -To have atleast town council in Arete that will set an example for other cities to follow

    There will be town councils in all cities it seems, each faction a city, which is different from Tribal, where all gameplayers can meddle with all cities at all times, regardless of where they live.

    I would have added something about adapting to a Sunshine Law (posted) as well as handling the instruction threads and session reports in an orderly manner.
     
  6. Duke Blackstone

    Duke Blackstone John Marchman

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    Very Nice Provo, its exactly what i wanted in the way of City States for the FC. Regarding our PM, if things fall apart, i may just vote for Triad. :) I want Babylon eventualy though, even if we dont conqure it for 3 more turn sessions. Now for my point in posting.

    All Citizens Please Post in the Census
    thankyou
     

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