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And I'm very puzzled why would people here want to go tradition? Yea, I get it: 4 free universities. But they don't make money (even in real life ).
I am very puzzled why you are puzzled about this
And I'm very puzzled why would people here want to go tradition? Yea, I get it: 4 free universities. But they don't make money (even in real life ).
Well, I'm not going to argue with you. I just don't see what I'm missing. (Maybe, you'll explain to me? ) AFAIK, tradition doesn't help you make more money or get city states' favor. It makes even less sense to me to delay the finisher ---which, for me, is the most important part of Tradition--- to the point where you are no longer going to benefit from it. (Surely, you would have aqueducts up by the time you hit Education!)I am very puzzled why you are puzzled about this
Well, I'm not going to argue with you. I just don't see what I'm missing. (Maybe, you'll explain to me? ) AFAIK, tradition doesn't help you make more money or get city states' favor. It makes even less sense to me to delay the finisher ---which, for me, is the most important part of Tradition--- to the point where you are no longer going to benefit from it. (Surely, you would have aqueducts up by the time you hit Education!)
One more thing i want to ask though: Is there no reduction for destroying other civs ?There is a fixed number of votes you need to have for the win, on standard maps with 16 city states it's 40. If a city state has been conquered/bought, votes drop by 2 and needed votes by 1, so by default
Instead of paying 160 hammers and 2gpt for a Wat, you pay 140 hammers and 2 gpt for the 2 cultural bulidings though.Well the Wat is free so thats 8 gp a turn iirc. 4 free Wats is a considerable time savings versus building them, and 2700 gold savings over buying them.
Don't forget a maintenance-free garrison unit in every city (starts at 1 gpt per unit, rising as the game goes on) and maintenance-free aqueducts (4 gpt total).
Also, you don't have to divert to Engineering for the free aqueducts (in fact, if you can finish the game without Machinery, Scientific Theory, etc., you can get away with never researching Engineering, while still getting your free aqueducts).
If you're going a non military approach tradition is the way to go.
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No, you're not likely to build 4 cities, and would have 6 puppets. Liberty becomes more viable, the happiness for city connection, the free worker and settler, and a free gp (scientist) On archipelago you can rush to navigation and should be able to clear the map with frigates and privateersNot if going military ?
Its hard to give them away after you eliminate a couple of civs. You also have no control over if they get liberated if you give them away.
If you're not going to build 4 cities tradition becomes less valuable. Also if you're going military you're not going to want huge cities.
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Liberty becomes more viable, the happiness for city connection, the free worker and settler, and a free gp (scientist) On archipelago you can rush to navigation and should be able to clear the map with frigates and privateers
The real question is - what's gonna give you navigation faster - tradition or liberty?