TSG 241 Announcement

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Civilization 5 - Game of the Month Training Series Game 241
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Welcome to the 241st game in the GOTM V Training Series!
This Series allows new and old Civilization V fans to try out many features from Civ5's expansions and DLCs in a friendly environment. Participants are encouraged to post questions, stories, advice, tricks and failures in the dedicated game threads (described below). Each game will specify the Civ you will play and the Victory Condition to strive for. You can read more about the GOTM and Training Series concept in this thread.

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TSG241 Details:
Game Settings:
Player (You): Dido - Carthage
Victory Condition: Diplomacy
(but all VCs are enabled)
Difficulty: Deity
Map Type/Size: Small Continents / Standard
(8 Civs, 16 City-States)
Pace: Standard
Your Unique Characteristics:
UA: Phoenician Heritage:
All coastal cities get a maintenance free Harbour when the city is founded (and Compass is not needed). However the Wheel is required to form connections to the capital. After gaining your first Great General, all land units can walk on mountain tiles. However, they take 50 HP damage if they end a turn in the mountains.
UU: African Forest Elephant (Horseman): +17% combat strength (14 vs. 12), only 3 movement points, does not require Horse resources.
UU: Quinquereme (Trireme): +30% combat strength (13 vs. 10)
Required DLC: All DLCs.
Starting Era: Ancient
Required game options: None
Enabled game options: Quick Combat, Quick Movement
(You may turn on/off Quick Combat/Quick Movement using the game options menu at any time during gameplay.)
Game Version: This game was created in Civ5 Brave New World version 1.0.3.279.
Here is where you will start:
TSG241Start.jpg

The start file is attached below.

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This game runs through April 15th 2024.

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@The_J @Blake00

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I might add that the movement expense of the mountain trails is only 1. This seems a bit illogical since hills have 2, but it would be really hard for most units to avoid ending the turn on the mountain if the movement expense were higher than 1.

Good starting location. I will settle in place and probably go scout+monument. I will probably also build an early granary regardless of whether I then aim for military or buildings. My rule of thumb is that as long as there is just one wheat, deer or banana in the vicinity, I prioritize granary. There is nothing quite as disheartening as a slowly growing capital.
 
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Lovely start! Gonna SIP as we have lots of great tiles in the 1st and 2nd circles, and we're on a hill.

Our most important bonus is that we don't need roads except if necessary for troop movements. So we must remember not to automate our workers because otherwise they will build roads, as I learned in last GOTM...
 
Lovely start! Gonna SIP as we have lots of great tiles in the 1st and 2nd circles, and we're on a hill.

Our most important bonus is that we don't need roads except if necessary for troop movements. So we must remember not to automate our workers because otherwise they will build roads, as I learned in last GOTM...
You seem awfully sure that we won’t need roads for the sake of faster movement. Maybe not, on a small continents map.
 
I agree, nice start! I'm going to need it on Deity, although diplo victory should be easier to achieve than any other type. And hopefully small continents keeps me from getting bum rushed like is happening in GotM 240.

Its such a nice start that I'm not even going to consider moving to settle. We're on a river hill next to cows and wheat with another cow in the 2nd tier; that's 3 great starting tiles right off the bat.

I actually played a few test games. Is it ok to talk about those here? I'll put it in a spoiler just in case.
Spoiler Test games with same settings :
In my test games the starting continent was quite small for 2/3 of them, I had the continent to myself. And the other game it was still smallish but had Atilla on the other side of a narrow isthmus. So I think science is going to be hard to come by in this game; I might go Writing sooner than normal for a library early. Also, I only got a pantheon in 1/3 of the games - but being separated from other civs will mean religion could be more important since the AI may not be able to spread theirs to us easily. I'll definitely go with only one Scout, then Monument, Shrine (I am tempted to skip shrine entirely but probably not).
 
You seem awfully sure that we won’t need roads for the sake of faster movement. Maybe not, on a small continents map.
To be honest I'm not sure at all. but I had a test game in which i was conveniently located on a rather inaccessible penisula, with a mountain range and hills between me and my neighbor.

However sooner or later we will be attacked, maybe even from the sea... but we might be able to delay roads until mid or late game.
 
@Rhodro you can't build a stone works if the city is settled on a plains tile. Apparently it was some kind of balancing decision, because plains cities typically already have a lot of hammers. Or it's bug, I'm not 100% sure. In Lekmod they changed that, but for this game no stone works for us, in the capital at least.

Edit: I meant to tag @sebtanic
 
@Rhodro you can't build a stone works if the city is settled on a plains tile. Apparently it was some kind of balancing decision, because plains cities typically already have a lot of hammers. Or it's bug, I'm not 100% sure. In Lekmod they changed that, but for this game no stone works for us, in the capital at least.

Edit: I meant to tag @sebtanic
Wow! Didn't know that, thanks.
 
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