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[tommynt]

Still don't think that makes it worth opening Honor for a designed victory of Science. You'll get enough extra culture out of it to make up for the opener, but will you get enough extra to make it worthwhile in the end? Raging barbs tends to really hamper the AI. They lose settlers, etc. which will result in less valuable RA, prevent them from making tile improvements, which will reduce their cash/luxes for trade, caravans will get eaten.

For Domination, sure, but for Science?

very often barb camps are close t city states - by constantly killing new barbs spawned for influence u can aly the CS without ever doing a quest for it or ever paying gold - pretty easily

1 archer for 1 CS = good tradeoff imo ..

Also raging barbs can be rly anyoing without opener ..

So its imo either clear all camps asap and neglect or opener or
keep some barb camps on purpose for culture and CS influence and take mil opener

Also its not like in end u often rly miss 500 culture for a key sp -I usually get 1 sp more as really "needed" - espacially with worlds fair (immortal perfect for it ..) so I d rather have a snowball ..

 

[Cromagnus]

very often barb camps are close t city states - by constantly killing new barbs spawned for influence u can aly the CS without ever doing a quest for it or ever paying gold - pretty easily

1 archer for 1 CS = good tradeoff imo ..

Also raging barbs can be rly anyoing without opener ..

So its imo either clear all camps asap and neglect or opener or
keep some barb camps on purpose for culture and CS influence and take mil opener

Also its not like in end u often rly miss 500 culture for a key sp -I usually get 1 sp more as really "needed" - espacially with worlds fair (immortal perfect for it ..) so I d rather have a snowball ..

I suppose the extra CS quests are worth one point in Honor... good point. But still, raging barbs comes with other difficulties. And with all those barbs, you can probably get away with building only one or two units and capturing the rest, which will free up production... hmm.

 

[YourHarry]

I will give this a try. I never play with raging barbarian, but I think I will try the honor opener. Sounds fun.

 

[YourHarry]

We are not allowed to use science overflow? Just want to confirm before I go further?

 

[leif erikson]

You should avoid using the science overflow bug. It is clearly exploitive.