gusten said:
I am also Swedish and I agree with Dagenham Dave. I don't really care either I belive that swedes are more interested in the history of the 17th and 18th century when Sweden/Finnland was a major power in northern Europe. To bad Russia kicked our asses. We would have had a great hockey team...
You mean Russia, joined by Denmark, Poland-Saxony and Prussia kicked our asses. Russia couldn't do it alone.
StarWorms said:
Why do you all vote for eachother in eurovision then?
Everyone votes for their neighbours in that competition. Worst is southeast Europe, however, and that includes the voting frenzy of former Yugoslavia that only vote for each others now that they're a whole bunch of separate countries.
Now, regarding the thread topic, the Civ games have never been much for realism in the details and that's what's always been bugging me about it. When Caesar asks me to try his fruit sallad, the vikings wear a horned helmet and the 'american civilization' exists in 4000BC, even wearing suits at the time, it gets hard to get a sense of realism. If you want great realism, go play Europa Universalis 2, it's a truly awesome strategy game with very indepth realistic events. EU3 is due for release in Q1 2007, and that's a definite buy for me.
Anyway, I'm Swedish, and it doesn't anger me how Firaxis have decided to go through with things. It's their product and I love the game. I just don't agree with some decisions they have made, but it's so extremely rare to find a game you agree with how it's made 100%.
About there being a Viking and no Scandinavian or Swedish civ: I'm all fine with a Viking civ since Civilization has always had some tribe or nation that haven't been around for a long time as a civ. Scandinavia (or Nordic for that matter) would work out as well due to the Kalmar Union and the closely similar culture, however, Vikings were closer to one people than the Scandinavian countries have ever been, and Firaxis had to settle for one choice. I think Sweden would have worked out great as a civ due to the historical impact they have had and since it would be more realistic with a nation as a civ over a short-lived people, but I'm sure people from other parts of Scandinavia would, understandably, dislike that change. I definitely don't think that change would have them refrain from buying the game though.
Finally, there is no definite answer afaik to if Finland is part of Scandinavia or not. They're not Scandinavian linguistically, but they were part of Sweden in the past and in that sense they are part of Scandinavia. Many think they were no longer part of Scandinavia after Sweden lost the territory, and it's generally correct to say that Finland is NOT part of Scandinavia, but there are still many that will disagree because it's a little complicated. Finland is part of the Nordic, but supposedly not part of Scandinavia.