No Persian Civ!?!?!

[Krajzen]

You guys realize it's rather frustratring as a portuguese to see Brazil and Kongo in the base game while Portugal ...

While I may understand case of Brazil (as it is colony of Portugal), why Kongo? It was not a country founded by Portugal or even dominated by it, it was its faraway partner and enemy for two centuries. It is perfectly feasible to see Kongo but not Portugal (regarding culture, because firaxis never cared about rankings of 'historical importance' which would be clearly in favour of Portuguese civ in this duel).
Also, you should realize that Portugal is, after all, Western European civ with culture close to Spain and Brazil, so putting all three at once is a little bit redundant and some ethnic/cultural variations would be preferred; and because Portugal is smallest nation of those three, it was chosen as the one not to appear on release

Meanwhile Persia is not only one of most important civs in history and over 2600 years of history, it is also very distinctive culturally (no, not at all similar but very different from Mesopotamia and Arabia - if anything Persia is culturally close to Caucasus and Central Asia), and that's why many people are disappointed by the lack of Persia: it is commonly viewed as one of 'main' 'baseline' civilisations. Portugal has high status in civ series but not as high as Persia, that's why many people would like to see Persia before Portugal.

Regarding historical importance, Portugal>Brazil, Kongo for obvious reasons, but Firaxis doesn't choose civs according to logic or importance but rather basing on uhhh 'we add whoever the hell we think is interesting and sells well'.

 

[Siptah]

Yes, Persia is quite different from the the mesopotamian cultures. And thus I hope, since they are not in the base game, they will get a unique look to their cities. I don't like Egypt having the babylonian palace in Civ VI, and I wish it would be changed until release. I doubt it, though, but I hope for Persia the graphics will be different.

 

[Bechhold]

No Dutch, no Persian, Zulu's and so on. And anyone who says they will be added as DLC's are missing the point entirely.

 

[Calyxx]

You guys realize it's rather frustratring as a portuguese to see Brazil and Kongo in the base game while Portugal ...

It is true both of those places became important on the global stage almost solely through interaction with Portugal. But there are other areas of the world that are greatly missing, and I understand why Portugal - as another western european country - was passed over despite its great historical importance.

The sad thing is that they seem to be going for an 'Age of Exploration/Discovery' feel to the UI but Portugal is still left out...

 

[shyPiano]

It is true both of those places became important on the global stage almost solely through interaction with Portugal. But there are other areas of the world that are greatly missing, and I understand why Portugal - as another western european country - was passed over despite its great historical importance.

The sad thing is that they seem to be going for an 'Age of Exploration/Discovery' feel to the UI but Portugal is still left out...

*coughWecouldhavehadPortugalinsteadofSpaincough*
Sorry, had a thing on my throat.

Though, quite frankly, with the amount of European civilizations in the base game, I think adding Portugal would be misguided. Either replace an European civilization with Portugal, or leave Portugal for DLC.

In my opinion, despite the fact that having Brazil with out Portugal feels weird, I'd much rather have Persia, Mongolia, the Inca, etc etc. The problem here is, in my opinion, not that Portugal is missing, but that Brazil is present (no offense!).

As things are, it does make me believe we'll be getting Portugal sooner rather than later. For better and for worse.

 

[DJ_Tanner]

Meanwhile Persia is not only one of most important civs in history and over 2600 years of history, it is also very distinctive culturally (no, not at all similar but very different from Mesopotamia and Arabia - if anything Persia is culturally close to Caucasus and Central Asia), and that's why many people are disappointed by the lack of Persia: it is commonly viewed as one of 'main' 'baseline' civilisations. Portugal has high status in civ series but not as high as Persia, that's why many people would like to see Persia before Portugal.

Persia missing when we get Tomyris is nothing to lose your head over.

 

[WorldWarIV]

I'd prefer if the base game only included the most important civilizations of all times, such as China, but fun civilizations are okay too. In any cases, I look at CiV final gallery of nations and I'm pretty pleased and very confident in Firaxis. I just wish the Inuits and Wallachia could make it someday...

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

I just wan't cool civs. Civilization is about creating history, it don't matter if the civ have been important to our history or not because the game is not about playing our history.

 

[Krajzen]

I just wan't cool civs. Civilization is about creating history, it don't matter if the civ have been important to our history or not because the game is not about playing our history.

Civs that were important to history are cooler than some ephemerical states that weren't.

 

[Karmah]

No Dutch, no Persian, Zulu's and so on. And anyone who says they will be added as DLC's are missing the point entirely.

I'm sorry but I 'm pretty sure they will be added as DLC and I don't see how it's missing any point. The base game is traditionally 18 civs and the rest come later. They are always choices to be made and apparently this time they seem to go for regional focus (at least that 's how I understand/foresee it ).

I don't see why the choices made can be called out to be absurd or sensible. They are just a simple matter of choices and business model. Civ is 18 civs and then DLCS with a 'mega DLC' (expansion) every now and then.