None Shall Pass 2 [Game Thread - Concluded]

[Newyn]

Because the recruiter is always the most valuable member. As long as a recruiter lives, everyone else is expendable.
That said, I am willing to switch to edse instead if needed. I just do not believe Tanar is a good lynch because edse wants him dead.

 

[JohannaK]

unvote; vote: edse

I somehow half trust Snerk. I would rather lynch the acknowledges Jedi Order before him right now.

 

[Newyn]

Unvote ; Vote: edse

 

[Buddhafish]

Ok so Riedquat says they've talked in private...I still would like this information available publicly regarding what he was saying (and if it's already been posted and I just missed it please direct me to it), so I'll reserve judgement for now. The devil you know has to be voted for

unvote; vote:edse

 

[edse]

Oh damn. Well, if I'm going to hang, I will Unvote: Vote: Verarde, the corrupted Warrior. When killing Choxorn he got the ring that corrupted him and now he's lying about it. It will really show your priorities if you're still voting for Jedi instead of a corrupted killing power.

Tally.

4 edse: Internet Flea, JohannaK, Newyn, Buddhafish
2 johnhughthom: Snerk, Tanar Aerdoth
1 Tanar Aerdoth: Kennigit
1 Verarde: edse

6 No Vote: johnhughthom, KingMorgan, Verarde, Legato Endless, Riedquat, Swammerdami

 

[Snerk]

unvote, vote edse

Might very well be a waste of a lynch. But he isn't town and he hasn't been all that helpful in finding scums. I suppose there is a slim chance that Edse is the real recruiter and the Jedi Order is more Cult like than we're lead to believe. But I doubt it.

Edse has a point though. Verarde claims he didn't get the ring when killing Choxorn. That seems a little odd..

 

[edse]

But he isn't town and he hasn't been all that helpful in finding scums.

I was part of getting azzaman killed. And we Jedi got the Empire lynched early. Technically they weren't scum, but we spared the starwars town from a civil war.

 

[Swammerdami]

My best hunch:

Vote: Verarde

(I apologize to one and all, especially Zack, for my low participation and confusion.
I'm afraid I'd have been confused in this complex and high-powered game in any event, but RL issues and poor Internet availability have made me almost useless here.)

 

[Internet Flea]

The problem with voting Verarde today is it's just a vote to destroy the Ring, but no one knows how. And we can't be sure choxorn didn't pass the Ring to another Jedi Order member either.

 

[Kennigit]

*shrug* Then lynch him and watch the flip. As for the warrior, as he now possesses the Ring, its fairly likely his previous allegiance has been abandoned.

In other news, the warrior said he don't have the ring...

So thing are going to become weirder...

-The warrior is lying because he was good and got corrupted, or...
-Choxorn gave the ring to somebody else, Choxorn claimed evil to me and also offered the ring to me, so it is entirely possible he offered it to other people as well...

Oh damn. Well, if I'm going to hang, I will Unvote: Vote: Verarde, the corrupted Warrior. When killing Choxorn he got the ring that corrupted him and now he's lying about it. It will really show your priorities if you're still voting for Jedi instead of a corrupted killing power.

Tally.

4 edse: Internet Flea, JohannaK, Newyn, Buddhafish
2 johnhughthom: Snerk, Tanar Aerdoth
1 Tanar Aerdoth: Kennigit
1 Verarde: edse

6 No Vote: johnhughthom, KingMorgan, Verarde, Legato Endless, Riedquat, Swammerdami

unvote, vote edse

Might very well be a waste of a lynch. But he isn't town and he hasn't been all that helpful in finding scums. I suppose there is a slim chance that Edse is the real recruiter and the Jedi Order is more Cult like than we're lead to believe. But I doubt it.

Edse has a point though. Verarde claims he didn't get the ring when killing Choxorn. That seems a little odd..

Why do any of you know

(1) verarde is the warrior (looks like he is, but in the thread verarde obviously tried to pass himself off as not-the-warrior by questioning whether the warrior now has the ring)
(2) verarde has the ring?

Why did it take edse about to be lynched for

(3) anyone else to know this info

I haven't really read much of thus thread, but like, why is riedquat, a claimed LOTR confirmed scanner for the ring, holding jedi secrets for no reason?

Anyways, we have to go after the recruiters. The berserker (presumably with warrior) has killed townies, the jedi have killed townies. They are both anti-town in my book.

(4) why is the warrior supposedly even listening to the jedi or former BSmith?

Oh! How wonderful! BSmith and the jedi faction have been networking all the info the entire game and also pointing to the warrior who to vig, but you want to lynch the jedi? I know a lot from them, I better try to lynch you than any of them! FoS: Johannak

bsmith was a roleblocker who blocked me then sprig then takhisis, who then got killed by the berserker.

Riedquat, why do you have ANY reason to go with the jedi council? You even swung with them in the takhisis vote.

 

[Kennigit]

I meant to say, bsmith was (as far as anyone else should be concerned) a random townie roleblocker.

what are the goals of the jedi (who began slaughtering townies n1).

and I can't believe the warrior listened at all to the jedi council when his presumable partner, the berserker, killed sprig. And then BSmith.

 

[Kennigit]

so unvote; vote edse is this delicious triple post

 

[Zack]

Official Tally!

[TIMER=3/14/2015 11:59:59 PM EDT; Day Six Over]tunnel snakes rule[/TIMER]

Spoiler :

6 edse (Internet Flea, JohannaK, Newyn, Buddhafish, Snerk, Kennigit)

2 Verarde (edse, Swammerdami)

1 johnhughthom (Tanar Aerdoth)

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4 Abstain (Verarde, johnhughthom, Riedquat, Legato Endless)

1 Not Voting (KingMorgan)

 

[KingMorgan]

I don't like what i'm hearing about the Jedi Order they seem anti-town. Therefore Vote: edse

 

[edse]

what are the goals of the jedi (who began slaughtering townies n1).

Lol. The Jedi have never had a kill ability, it was Choxorn's personal power. Choxorn was not Jedi night one and after he was recruited he killed two mafia before getting corrupted. Is that anti-town?

and I can't believe the warrior listened at all to the jedi council when his presumable partner, the berserker, killed sprig. And then BSmith.

We haven't had any communication with the Warrior before two nights ago when we scanned Verarde as having a PG involving killing people. He confessed when asked about it.

 

[johnhughthom]

I heard edse is a jedi, I don't like voting for jedi. Unless they are disrespectful jedi who don't acknowledge I'm a war hero, damnit! So far as I'm aware, edse has up to this point not cast doubt on my war hero-ness, so I shan't vote for him.

I heard Internet Flea is dodgy though.

 

[Riedquat]

The problem with voting Verarde today is it's just a vote to destroy the Ring, but no one knows how. And we can't be sure choxorn didn't pass the Ring to another Jedi Order member either.

That is a real possibility, the truth is we don't know who has the ring, its just speculation, choxorn offered me the ring yesterday night, he could have offered it to anyone, or anyone could have asked for the ring.

Why do any of you know

(1) verarde is the warrior (looks like he is, but in the thread verarde obviously tried to pass himself off as not-the-warrior by questioning whether the warrior now has the ring)
(2) verarde has the ring?

Why did it take edse about to be lynched for

(3) anyone else to know this info

I haven't really read much of thus thread, but like, why is riedquat, a claimed LOTR confirmed scanner for the ring, holding jedi secrets for no reason?

Anyways, we have to go after the recruiters. The berserker (presumably with warrior) has killed townies, the jedi have killed townies. They are both anti-town in my book.

(4) why is the warrior supposedly even listening to the jedi or former BSmith?



bsmith was a roleblocker who blocked me then sprig then takhisis, who then got killed by the berserker.

I just now know the identity of the warrior, BSmith seemed to know about him from the start, that was my impression when BSmith claimed "my partner is the warrior". Knew Snerk and the order knew who he was.

Riedquat, why do you have ANY reason to go with the jedi council? You even swung with them in the takhisis vote.

I just over explained my decision to vote for Tak, it was my decision, not the order decision, and I didn't know choxorn was order.
And do you think now I GO WITH THE ORDER??? They lied to me when I asked about the lightsaber man, they lied to me when I've asked about choxorn. And how do you suppose do you know who they are now?

 

[Riedquat]

Something that needs further clarification because you seem to be obtuse on purpose

why is riedquat, a claimed LOTR confirmed scanner for the ring, holding jedi secrets for no reason?

Confirmed scanner for the ring? We clarified this privately long ago, didn't we? I don't scan for the ring! I scan for seekers of the ring, it is not the same thing...

Jedi secrets? uh?

I described to you the circumstances on how I started talking with Sprig, didn't I?

If not, here is part of a PM I sent to BSmith back in the day, look for your secrets!

I'm Faramir, scanner for the wish of the ring! Lets recapitulate a bit:

I claimed to Visor and later to you on same day

The night visor was going to be killed he told me (apart of he going to be killed) you were scum and Sprig and Choxorn were jedi

I shared that info with you (while I didn't mentioned choxorn) and at the same time with Sprig (I did mention of choxorn with him)

He came back to me asking my role, I told him my role and ability, he told me he was yoda, and sort of defended you from the weightless accusation from dead Visor, and that you blocked him, fact taht you later confirmed while mentioning the warrior is your partner. And almost forgot, he also shared the info about your PG, do you remember?

By the time of christos claim on spaceman and the mention of he revealed to snerk I did asked Sprig any info on christos and/or snerk

Sprig told me christos was gollum and snerk a jedi, while I was waiting for sprig reply I asked christos himself and snerk respectively

By the time Snerk answered me asking who was I, my reply was he had to ask master yoda because he had already answered me about both he and christos

Reply from Snerk was something about Sprig having a long tongue, so he knew Sprig's role

Christos admitted being smeagol/gollum plus his scan ability include a search for the ring plus what he has said in thread, town / not-town and universe of the target. And moments ago admitted he wants the ring. I'm awaiting, if he decide to answer, his alignment! (Related to my PG)

I've asked Takhisis his universe, it was an easy question... well after a long series of pms forth and back he told me he needs the ring to achieve victory, he also can scan for the ring but has been blocked every night, when he gets the ring he will gain a surprising ability... all the claim and further conversation couldn't be more scummy! I scanned him and got confirmation he wants badly the ring, he refuses to give me any more info till he can confirm I'm Faramir...

In the middle of all this, kennigit came back at me (as at some point after having scanned him I asked from what universe he was) asking if I was the ring scanner Sprig was talking about, been talking with him yesterday a bit, not vital information given but he confirmed your block on him on N1 and also said he trusted you

Today I contacted choxorn asking if he is up to date with all the info Sprig shared with me and he seems very clueless... so don't know what to make of it

The rest of my conversations with BSmith and Snerk were of the same nature, no jedi secrets. My conversations with edse are in hands of other townies as well.

What jedi secrets are you talking about, do you have secrets? I do not have any secret..

 

[Kennigit]

i thought you knew who the warrior was

anyways also i just carelessly wrote scan for the ring. To a humble townie like me who has no real reason to care about the ring, everyone who has abilities related to that is just "some ring person"

 

[Legato Endless]

Why do any of you know

(1) verarde is the warrior (looks like he is, but in the thread verarde obviously tried to pass himself off as not-the-warrior by questioning whether the warrior now has the ring)
(2) verarde has the ring?

Why did it take edse about to be lynched for

(3) anyone else to know this info.

Verarde was scanned by me on night four. When I scry someone, I learn their personal goals. Verarde's is to kill people. At least twice as many evil alignment to good. (Alignment, not faction) This was already passed onto Snerk the moment after I learned it.

Whoever kills the bearer at night gains the ring. Choxorn gained it when he killed Boromir.He never gave the bloody thing up before, and I don't know of anyone he'd feel inclined to do so that night. Verarde killed him. Now Verarde denies having it, but gives a sudden burst of obligatory activity. It looks suspicious personally. I'm also starting to wonder if giving up the ring was actually possible.

If it weren't, in keeping with the items theme, it would help explain his resistance.