None Shall Pass 2 [Game Thread - Concluded]

[Riedquat]

What exactly does "corrupted" mean? Just turning evil or something... else?

Well I don't know, it doesn't sound good... it is bad for you and bad for town, I do not have better explanation, Takhisis seems to know more about what happens with the ring in the wrong hands, that is why I believed him that part, it match with my role description.

The big bad Nâzgul wants the Ring? It does souns like anti-town, but I will believe him for no apparent reason. unvote; vote:choxorn

What I mean by no apparent reason is that although everything Takhisis said makes me want to lynch him, I trust Riedquat and that this being a Zack game, things are probably not what they seem. Plus you are being terribly evasive.

The thing is I don't know what to make of it myself, so please don't vote one or the other because you believe me, just get the complete picture and make up your mind. We know Tak is evil but we don't know if he is town, and we don't know if he is of certain faction.

What we know about Choxorn? I don't remember what I knew about him... for sure not alignment, but lynching him will release again the ring... we better throw him and the ring together at mount doom!

 

[JohannaK]

I trust you, meaning I believe that what you do, you do in good faith.

We should try to get info from everyone, but if we see more Nâzgul attacks we should lynch Tak.

 

[Riedquat]

Thanks, but good faith is not enough, lynching christos was terribly wrong... and I'm missing something here...

@choxorn, when exactly you got the ring? Did you wanted the ring form before or it did just randomly fall in your lap?

Now Takhisis, explain to us how on earth are you supposed to get the ring, because if you attack the person who has it when trying to scan him I can't see how he will give the thing to you voluntarily... You mentioned in one private conversation you could try to convince the owner to give it to you... please show us how that can work?

 

[Tanar Aerdoth]

I'm not sure what to make of Johanna, but I think choxorn is the best to lynch right now.

 

[Internet Flea]

Well, someone from the Morgoth faction had it when they died, how am I supposed to know how they got it?

Which Morgothian was it, what night did you get the ring, and how long after that did the person who gave it to you die?

 

[Snerk]

Last Night I scanned choxorn and apparently the ability also means that I automatically attack whomever is holding the ring.

What? You did not know you had an attack ability? The role pm mention nothing of this? Does not compute.

Apart, I don't know if Tak mentioned it or not, but his VC is based on the ring, having the ring will grant him an additional ability.

And what additional ability is that?

 

[choxorn]

Well I don't know, it doesn't sound good... it is bad for you and bad for town, I do not have better explanation, Takhisis seems to know more about what happens with the ring in the wrong hands, that is why I believed him that part, it match with my role description.

Well, from his point of view, his hands are the only "right" hands, how do you know he's not just making the corruption part up to try to get people to think that they shouldn't have the ring and he should? After all, he can't be corrupted.

In answer to all the other questions about the ring: I suppose I should probably just tell you the whole truth, rather than these half-truths and truths from a certain point of view.

I'm Lightsaber Man. I took the ring from azzaman's corpse when I killed him on Night 4. I didn't have any idea he had it and wasn't looking for it, but I ended up with it. I probably should have led off with that, but you all seem so damn sure that I'm anti-townie no matter how many members of Morgoth's faction I kill. I'm just a vigilante, guys.

Now, I know what you're thinking: A bulletproof vigilante? Seems a bit overpowered. Well... they're both a bit limited. I can only kill LOTR characters, and the bulletproof part... well, I'm not going to tell you what the limit on that is. Nobody needs to know what my weakness is.

I imagine most of the LOTR won't be convinced by this, because there's got to be some kind of non-town presence there given the existence of the Jedi and Empire in SW, so I imagine at least 3 or 4 of them have a vested interest in my death so they can get the ring, which I can only assume they'll use for some nefarious means.

So, Star Wars people- hear me out. I'm not your enemy; I couldn't hurt you if I wanted to. But there's clearly something going on on the LOTR side, and I guarantee you that at least Takhisis, and probably also JohannaK and maybe some other LOTR-ers have a victory condition that involves killing us all. Honestly, given the supposed recruiting powers of the other non-town factions we've seen so far, it's certainly possible there are exactly 0 townies remaining among the living LOTR. I find that unlikely, but possible.

 

[Snerk]

Also, what happens with the ring if Chox is lynched? I still have no idea what the purpose of the one ring is in this game. I'm sure somebody knows more, please do tell! Until then, I'm suspicious of everybody who deals with rings in this game.

 

[Snerk]

But there's clearly something going on on the LOTR side, and I guarantee you that at least Takhisis, and probably also JohannaK and maybe some other LOTR-ers have a victory condition that involves killing us all.

What is your reasoning behind this suspicion?

 

[Snerk]

And why did you kill Arakhor? (sorry for triple posting)

 

[JohannaK]

and probably also JohannaK and maybe some other LOTR-ers have a victory condition that involves killing us all.

Oh my, you think so highly of me!

My VC is the eliminate all threats to the town one, and my PG ws accomplished long ago by scanning at least two evil/neutral-evil characters.

So, go on.

I am more and more convinced that both you and Takhisis should die. so I will unvote; vote: Takhisis

I love hstorical reenactments.

 

[JohannaK]

Actually, unvote. I can't decide who do I want to see dead more.

 

[Tanar Aerdoth]

I don't think they both need to die.

 

[choxorn]

What is your reasoning behind this suspicion?

Like I said: If there's so many non-townies on the SW side, there's probably at least a few on the LOTR side. Maybe everyone on the LOTR side being a non-townie is exaggerating a bit, but at least 3 seems reasonable, especially if they can convert like the Empire (and maybe also the Jedi and Morgoth?) supposedly could.

And why did you kill Arakhor? (sorry for triple posting)

That was my bad- my gut said there was something off about him, but it looks like it was wrong. I can't always be perfect. Clearly I should have killed Takhisis, the other guy I had a bad gut feeling about, but we can correct that mistake today.

 

[Snerk]

Your kills are as much serial killer as they are vigilante. Some say The Warrior still walk among us, but not killing at near random like others are. I'll stay at my vote for now. What is your PG, Chox?

 

[KingMorgan]

Vote:Takihsis for being a wraith and potentially evil-anti-town.

 

[choxorn]

Your kills are as much serial killer as they are vigilante. Some say The Warrior still walk among us, but not killing at near random like others are. I'll stay at my vote for now. What is your PG, Chox?

To kill the three members of the LOTR universe that survived None Shall Pass 1. My character wants revenge on them, or something.

Actually, two of them were Boromir and Elrond, who turned out to be members of Morgoth's faction. Fancy that.

I wonder if Eowyn, the third, is also some sort of anti-townie...

 

[Arakhor]

<ghost comment> Fun fact: I was Eowyn in the last game. She's better looking than Haldir, at any rate.

 

[Snerk]

Something that stands against the Takhisis case it is that someone with the ability to scan the significance of roles, has scanned Tak as having a "minor role". And thus less likely of being a big bad scum.

 

[Buddhafish]

Everyone has an ability. Therefore their role can be played to a significant level if played correctly and with skill. There is no lack of skill on Takhisis' part, and along with many players on this site (Zack, Backwards Logic, ATPG pre-retirement), they can never be counted as anything but significant in a game of this complexity.

So to say his role is insignificant is a strange and misleading statement.