Once they are furious...

[Civddict]

...is there turning back?
Will they stay forever furious? do gifts help?

They still offer deals, like MPP.

 

[TheBB]

I guess they can always go annoyed and polite on you over time.

I've never gotten a furious civ to offer me MPP's, or anything else for that matter

 

[Greyhound]

Depends. In my games, Zulus usually stay furious for the rest of the game. With other civilizations, gifts might help (like 20 turns of Incense).
If they offer MPP, they probably want to start a war and find nobody else stupid enough to help them with it.

 

[Hawkster]

From my experience it can take a very long time for other civs to change from furious to anything else. Gifts can help as can as can trading techs/luxuries etc.

A furious civ will alwyas offer less in trades and is very unlikely to offer MPPS etc unless they are under threat from another civ and as Greyhound says can't get help anywhere else - so if a furious civ offers an MPP watch out!

 

[Chieftess]

I had a civ go from furious (they declared war on my for no reason, and lost a good dozen swords by trying to invade me. ) to polite and wanting an allience against another civ in a matter of 5-10 turns.

 

[WildFire]

im my game right now, i was at war with the iroqouis and since then, i have traded with them and given them gold and they are up to cautious. Of course, everyone else is annoyed for what reason i have no idea.

 

[Theseus]

Gifts and alliances can do the trick...

I will often reduce an AI civ to a punching bag with just a couple of island towns / cities. They are, of course, furious. As time goes by, especially if I can achieve a branch tech lead, gifting them semi-obsolete techs, any excess of the newly appeared strategic resources, and any excess (monopoly) luxuries, I can almost alway swing them back to polite.

 

[sumthinelse]

I don't care whether they are furious or not, don't think it's worth it to make them like me.

 

[hbdragon88]

I never get a furious civ leaders unless I want them that way. In that case I demand tribute like hell. I try to get them to start a war but I annoy the wrong people, unfortunantely.

To qualm a furious civ you should probably let them be that way if they are really aggressive. There's no turning them polite because from then on they'll wave back and forth. Less aggressive ones can be pushed back so easily.

 

[Sim_One]

From my experience, if you just conquered say about 25% of their territory they will stay annoyed forever after peace, and if you conquered about 50% or more they will stay furious. If you conquered territories containing luxuries and resources they get especially mad.

 

[hbdragon88]

If you're that far then you should destroy that civ anyway. It would be easier - plus you don't have to deal with them.

They can become annoyed when you don't talk to them in a while. That can be easily fixed through time - sometimes they'll be polite. Going from furious to annoyed is something that I have never experinced before

 

[RouTaran]

i was just playing a game yesterday where the Aztec declared war on me. It lasted a few turns with me beating off their attack and setting up a counter attack on one of their cities. They then contacted me and we made peace. Their attitude towards me was furious. Before the war began we traded luxuries so i tried to get that deal again and managed to get it. Around the second time that i renewed that deal i noticed that they were no longer furious with me but catious.

I went on to have a few more skirmishes with them, each time they would go from furious to catious or better. Same case with the Russians in the same game. I think that if you make peace with a former enemy and DO NOT sign any trade deals with them they remain furious or come down very very slowly. However if you do make trading deals with them it helps restore your image in their eyes

 

[Dominix]

I had a civ go from furious to gracious. In my regent game I attacked the Greeks early on because I got annoyed with their little cities that they built on my continent. They stayed furious the whole time, until the very end when I signed a MPP with them as well as an alliance against the Egyptians and the Russians. This got them to polite, and after giving them some furs, they went to gracious.

 

[Evincar]

Want a Furious Civ become polite with you?

Declare war on every civ they are at war with, and then trade with them. Their mood will improve a lot!!

Of course, you know what will happen woth those you declare war on...

 

[Bobela XII]

If another civ attacks you and they become furious and you fend off their attack then make peace and ask for nothing from them they will in a couple of turns go to annoyed cautious or polite. They will also in time act as if the war never happened.

 

[hbdragon88]

Yeah, too bad that they're so stupid as to not even accept my envoy. The Americans only had 4 cities and I was leaps and bounds ahead of them. All they had were musketmen and I had riflemen with ironclads and galleons. I blitzed them in two turns and took over three cities. I attempted to toy around with them while peace negioations but they still refused my envoy. I captured their last city in retaliation for that.

 

[WildFire]

It kind of sucks that the updated patch won't let you trade cities anymore because that was such an easy source of income, especially if you traded it to say the Americans and then attcaked a turn later. Easy city.

 

[hbdragon88]

But then and again, how in history has you ever done something like sell a city? Nothing AFAIK. So it was good that they removed it - more history-like. It would be like a cheap blitz - sell all improvements, station troops outside, and the take it over the next turn...

 

[penvzila]

It's all right if they're being furious on a single frozen island city.

 

[stachnie]

Originally posted by hbdragon88
But then and again, how in history has you ever done something like sell a city? Nothing AFAIK./B]

Hmmm... Louisiana (I'm not sure about spelling), Alaska...


Regards,

Slawomir Stachniewicz.