Only 3695 dollars!

[Cutlass]

proof? I happen to know lots of photoshop and they look photoshopped to me... look at how poor the quality is!!! thats trademark photoshop.



four straight strawmen. i isn't talking about cd players dvd players vcrs or tvs.



economics 101... people will pay more for better products, if this product isnt better then why would they pay way more money for it? and dont even begin to talk to me about inflaction because you have it BACKWARDS

If you didn't have such disdain for economics it might make more sense to you......

 

[lndm]

people will pay more for better products, if this product isnt better then why would they pay way more money for it?

Computers used to be the domain of those that really appreciated and knew how to use them, and businesses that would learn and employ people that really knew how to use them. These days they'll sell them to any so and so, no license required.

 

[Fifty]

Because computers weren't that common back then.

Evidence?

And manufacturing wasn't as efficient as today. So it cost more to produce them, and that cost went on to the customer.

Efficiency means how fast you do something... how should how fast they make the computers affect how expensive they are? It only affects how many they can make in a given period of time!

For example, when the Commorore 64 came out, it was pretty expensive. But it became popular, and manufacturing got more efficient, so the price was dropped to 200-300 dollars.

Sorry but this cant be true... as demand went up the price went down? Thats impossible sorry.

 

[Perfection]

Fiddy, actually the ads are true, but not from any of the silly ways proposed here. The reason electronics are so cheap these days is one thing: government subsidies. Computers, corn, cigarettes, it's all one big corporate/government racket.

 

[lndm]

Efficiency means how fast you do something

Efficiency is more than that. Efficiency is wanted versus unwanted, or maximum versus how much in practice, depending on where you use it.

Efficiency in manufacture can be how long versus how much gets done, or effort versus how much is achieved, or dollars spent versus dollars made, or dollars made versus time taken or anything else like it.

 

[DaveShack]

Efficiency means how fast you do something... how should how fast they make the computers affect how expensive they are? It only affects how many they can make in a given period of time!

The early personal computers had lots of discrete electronic parts -- transistors, resistors, diodes, capacitors, etc. The circuits were designed with pencil and paper, very expensive in terms of engineering labor. The parts were a non-trivial expense. Then they had to be assembled by hand, also a non-trivial expense. Then there was all the qualification and testing. All those costs added up to a fairly high producer price per unit. The parts which were integrated circuits were also pretty rare, adding even more to the cost. Then they had to develop firmware in ROM, the power supply, display adapter, and other ancillary systems. There was a shortage of RAM, making it the single most expensive element of many computers.

[forgot to quote any supply/demand "arguments" but I'll answer anyway]

As for supply and demand, you asked why something with lower demand than now would be higher price. Primarily it was because low volume amortizes fixed overhead costs (office space, facility, executives, sales, distribution, service) across fewer units, making those elements of the price affect the consumer price more than they do today being spread across millions of units.

Don't bother asking for evidence BTW... My evidence is based on personally witnessing it and participating.

Spoiler :

I wrote my first program on a computer with 1MB of memory that took about 600 square feet of floor space and its own air conditioner and water chiller, in 1974. My first real PC was an IBM PS/2-50 and cost about $2500 in 1986, for 1MB of RAM (384K of extended woohoo) and a 20MB HDD.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Sorry but this cant be true... as demand went up the price went down? Thats impossible sorry.

http://oldcomputers.net/c64.html
Commodore continued to improve reliablilty, as well as reduce manufacturing costs. Eventually, it cost only about $25.00 to manufacture, and the consumer price of the C-64 dropped to around $200.00.

 

[Turner]

Fifty's just posting to be difficult. I would suggest we ignore his comments and move on.

 

[Cutlass]

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[Aramazd]

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That is much funnier than the OP.

 

[PreLynMax]

Spoiler :

We actually raised enough money to buy one of those for my school.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

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Actually, it's a fake, but still funny.

Got $3495 to spare? How about getting yourself a 10 megabyte HDD? And refurbished, too -- however, a brand spankin' new one will only cost you a thousand bucks more.

 

[mrt144]

proof? I happen to know lots of photoshop and they look photoshopped to me... look at how poor the quality is!!! thats trademark photoshop.



four straight strawmen. i isn't talking about cd players dvd players vcrs or tvs.



economics 101... people will pay more for better products, if this product isnt better then why would they pay way more money for it? and dont even begin to talk to me about inflaction because you have it BACKWARDS

Were you drunk?

 

[Chukchi Husky]

Spoiler :

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I suppose it has enough dials and buttons to be able to play a flight simulator on it.

 

[Genocidicbunny]

But can it run crysis?

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Here's another weird thing. I downloaded a ZIP from the internet of programs from Windows 2.0, recompiled to work on newer OSes. It came with this file:

It's kinda creepy seeing the 1987 modified date. And also the fact that the modified date is earlier than the creation date!!

 

[Cutlass]

The file was created on your computer 3/16 2009. The file itself was last changed 8/17 1987

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I know. It just looks weird.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I found this screenshot from a build (I think build 73) of Windows Chicago, which later became Win95. Made me laugh:

 

[Genocidicbunny]

Unless its a RTM build, or one past it, it wasnt meant for people to see. It was the Dev's just having a bit of fun probably, or being smartasses.