Patch 1.09 released!

Just to add my two cents, the patch did not do anything for mr. The game CTD as much as before.
Very frustrating.
 
What is firaxis doing? The game kept crashing and crashing for me.
Then I went BACK to older nVidia drivers and instead of freezing my system, it then only gave me CTDs. I eventually gave up even bothering with this game.
Finally a patch is out, and what happens?
I get the "No previous version of civ4 found" error message. WTH?? I bought my copy of Amazon (pre-release version), installed it in a different directory than default and now this?? Maybe it's because I updated all the files that come with civ4 manually in order to try to get this piece of **** working on my machine?

So, now I am destined to reinstall civ4 and hope that the patch works? Just more hours down the drain trying to get a BETA version of a game to work.

Whoever wrote this patch should be fired.
 
pdschmid said:
What is firaxis doing? The game kept crashing and crashing for me.
Then I went BACK to older nVidia drivers and instead of freezing my system, it then only gave me CTDs. I eventually gave up even bothering with this game.
Finally a patch is out, and what happens?
I get the "No previous version of civ4 found" error message. WTH?? I bought my copy of Amazon (pre-release version), installed it in a different directory than default and now this?? Maybe it's because I updated all the files that come with civ4 manually in order to try to get this piece of **** working on my machine?

So, now I am destined to reinstall civ4 and hope that the patch works? Just more hours down the drain trying to get a BETA version of a game to work.

Whoever wrote this patch should be fired.
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This is just hillarious... The problem was not with the patch, but the ORIGINAL game. When I tried to uninstall it, I couldn't find it in Add/Remove Programs. For some reason, the game never entered itself there. So I just installed it in the same directory again (without uninstalling, as I couldn't). I actually didn't copy any files, just went through the entire list of files. Now I have an entry in Add/Remove programs, and the patch is loading.

Ok...fire everyone who worked on QA for this game. And get a better spread of beta testersn next time!
 
Just one more thing that REALLY gets on my nerves: On the 2k website, in the Civ4 news section, there is no word yet on the patch. "A Note from Firaxis About the Civilization IV Patch 11.16.05
Firaxis Games gives an update on the status of the Civilization IV patch, as well as details on some of the gameplay improvements. "
That is the latest piece of news on the site. You would think they could atleast update all their P***ED OFF fans about the patch being released.

Also when i went to their support page, all it had was:
Having technical issues with your copy of Civilization IV? Take a look at the list of documented solutions.

Minimum System Requirements
Game Installation Problems
Initialization Issues with ATI Graphics Card
Enabling Logging to Pinpoint Specific Problems
Cannot Locate the CD-ROM / Please Insert the Correct CD-ROM
Received a French Tech Tree?

and then Still having problem? link, which takes me TO THIS SITE.

THEY DONT EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN FRIKIN SUPPORT FORUM

(or is this site owned by firaxis??)

/end 2nd rant.
... i hate them so much right now
 
Harkonnen said:
Yrth
As I noticed during my patch development, cache issues show up only during start-up phase. I.e. if game loads up till menu, cache deletion won't help anything.
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Yep. You're right. I was hoping though. I did go more than 30 turns without a crash until I was foolish enough to accept a World Map. Got the map OK but then next turn...crash...to desktop so it wasn't too bad.
 
i just vented all my anger in a 3 page email to 2k. if i jus get some automated response im gona go postal lol.
 
UKTechie said:
What dates do you have for your Drivers???
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I'm running the Catalyst drivers straight off the ATI website (the most recent drivers). I went through months of tech support because my card does not support 800x600 without a lot of specific (and otherwise useless) software installed to assist the drivers.

Radeon 9600 SE (Suck Edition) has turned me off of ATI permenantly. Last ATI card I buy.
 
honus said:
Right out of the box this game worked very well for me. ... Ugg! Maybe the next patch?? :rolleyes:
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Considering what his one did, don't count on it bub. I was prepared to write a glowing review on my site's page, but considering the state the game's in, this won't happen for a long while.
 
Well, it has finally happened-I have finally had all the whining that I can take. Check the polls and you will see that the majority-around 80% of respondants have either better performance+new features, or same performance but new features-have had no problems with the patch. Those of you who are, might I suggest that the problem lies in either (a) how you installed the original game, (b) how you installed the patch or (c) your overall system. That said, please don't use your problems with the game as an excuse to accuse Firaxis of putting out a Beta version of the game, when it is actually clear that most people are having little to no difficulty with it, and are actually off enjoying the game immensely.
Actually, scratch that, you can do whatever the hell you like now-for all I care-as all the constant whining has finally made me realise that there is NO POINT in being on the Civ4 discussion list, as all the decent discussion is being pushed out by the repetitive whiner threads. Good bye, and maybe see you in a few months, after all the complaints have died down.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
 
pdschmid said:
This is just hillarious... The problem was not with the patch, but the ORIGINAL game. When I tried to uninstall it, I couldn't find it in Add/Remove Programs. For some reason, the game never entered itself there. So I just installed it in the same directory again (without uninstalling, as I couldn't). I actually didn't copy any files, just went through the entire list of files. Now I have an entry in Add/Remove programs, and the patch is loading.

Ok...fire everyone who worked on QA for this game. And get a better spread of beta testersn next time!
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The patch actually did help :) YAY

I managed to play for a few hours straight without any problems. Then I hit one (the names for all technologies in the tech window disappeared). Closed civ4, and...oh well, I got 640x480x256 (wrong colored) right now. Gotta reboot to fix that.
Overall though, the game got playable for me.
 
Charles 22 said:
I have noticed, however, that the barb and animal ratio have been "seriously" tweaked in this game, compared to before. I probably explored at the rate I had for the unpatched version of the game which just on a wild guess means that by the time my recon gets through those units have been through like 30 battles, which of course gets a lot of promotions. In this game I had "maybe" 5 fights total and not a single promotion. I might had seen like 5 barb units the whole time, which includes some of my recon being in the booneys for extended periods. I used to could count on running into at least 5-6 animal units in the snow areas alone, but I don't think I found a single one there. Very different. Looks like I'll have to turn raging barbs on.
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Any updates / confirmations on this? I'm curious whether they made a tweak to this and forgot to list it in the patch notes?
 
Aussie_Lurker said:
Well, it has finally happened-I have finally had all the whining that I can take. Check the polls and you will see that the majority-around 80% of respondants have either better performance+new features, or same performance but new features-have had no problems with the patch. Those of you who are, might I suggest that the problem lies in either (a) how you installed the original game, (b) how you installed the patch or (c) your overall system. That said, please don't use your problems with the game as an excuse to accuse Firaxis of putting out a Beta version of the game, when it is actually clear that most people are having little to no difficulty with it, and are actually off enjoying the game immensely.
Actually, scratch that, you can do whatever the hell you like now-for all I care-as all the constant whining has finally made me realise that there is NO POINT in being on the Civ4 discussion list, as all the decent discussion is being pushed out by the repetitive whiner threads. Good bye, and maybe see you in a few months, after all the complaints have died down.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
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So post a link to this poll. Or should I say all the polls. Because there is no way I will believe that 80% of the people are happy. NO GOD DAM WAY. Show me a poll that was taken of random people who purchased this game. Show me an unbiased poll. Not one that originates from this website. Truthfully I think this website is in bed with firaxis\take2. But you show me an unbiased poll with good data. Supporting your 80% dream. And I will post a truthful apology. Until such time. I have grown sick of you people who get into these threads to brag about how you can play and you can't believe others are having problems. Like we are making this up. Like we have nothing better to do. I sitll have the crap patch I downloaded from this site. That actually removed the Civ executable. Bascially uninstalling the game. But hey I guess thats in my imagination because you saw a poll on some kiss ass thread that said so go civ go.
And a) it is not my ****ing system. I have tried it on five different setups now. All with fresh installs of windows. b) how I installed the game. I inserted disc and said install. No specail fun there. Not really to much to do there. So I believe your talking out your ass there cause your mouth knows better. and last c) how I installed the patch. Well again. only two ways. Download from one of these supported taking kickbacks to make us look good sites. or from the in game update. Well most of the patches I downloads removed the executable. The in game update, well that made the game worse so far on two setups and I am working on the last three. Unlike you I do some testing on clean machines before I complain. Just to make sure it is not my hardware. I don't just open my mouth to see what **** spouts out of it. Hope to hear back from you in 4 or 5 months or however long you plan to stay gone.
But before I go, heres a tip. If you are looking for a urah rah thread. Look for that in the title. Other wise stfu. You are not having problems. good for you. go play the dam game. The rest of us have been through hell and back trying to get this thing to work.
 
Well here I am again with another report.

My conclusion is that generally the patch has made my problems worse, but it takes a lot of gameplay to come to that conclusion. I've been playing large map since I last added to this thread, and the dreaded EGA CTD has happened at least once more (and many of the more typical variety from the memory leak). The EGA one is worse, because you never see it coming, unlike some of the mid-game crashes, where terrain starts disappearing and such. The general thing with this patch is that it looks like the computer is doing better because the speed is improved in many respects,and the CTD pre-evidence that it's fixing to crash is a lot more abbreviated. Unfortunately sicne you have seen the warning in much longer terms, and more gradual, you keep expecting it will get to the stage it was (gradual progression) before it crashes, but as you guessed that doesn't happen any more.

I'm getting pretty fed up. I've learned about as much of the early game as I'm going to learn and now I'm spinning my wheels. I have been using the default autosave, but the one time I went back to an autosave, it got me perhaps 6 turns past the point it crashed before; surely not worth the effort. I'm also somewhat fed up with all the advice frankly, as everything I try seems to make no difference (like changing the pagefile size), at least no difference in stopping the CTD's. There has been one slight improvement, in that the CTD's, since 1.09, haven't totally crashed my computer -yet- but then I have that new EGA crash which comes without warning.

Oh well, I guess I'll get fed up enough to start playing something else pretty soon.
 
WuphonsReach said:
Any updates / confirmations on this? I'm curious whether they made a tweak to this and forgot to list it in the patch notes?
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I clarified this later. It turns out that I forgot that with uninstalling and reinstalling that the default is for the cheiftan level and not the noble level I was playing before. I have been playing noble since I discovered that mistake and it's definitely the same as it was before.
 
My computer specs are: Geforce 2 mx 100/200 32 mb.
Game works fine with patch 1.09 but i had to change my vide card grivers to the older version - forceware 71.89 from forceware 81.95. Since then i din't have any CTD. Evrything seems ok now:). Sorry for my English.
 
FINE, if you are going to effectively accuse me of lying, then check out
this thread:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=143125, and that is just for starters.

or this one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141628

or maybe this one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=141393

or, you could look at THIS one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=139579

or perhaps THIS one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=134595

and there is, of course, THIS one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140612

or you could try THIS one:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=140199

These are just the ones which I could find, but I am certain that there are others-what they do show though is that the whining is being done by a very vocal minority-most of whom sign up with the sole purpose of complaining about the game, which is what I believe is the most pathetic part of all of this.
Anyway, as I said above, I am thoroughly sick and tired of what a waste of space the discussion thread is becoming, and plan to spend the rest of my time over in the other civ4 threads (and at Apolyton), at least until the pitch of this whining gets a little less.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
 
My computer specs are: Geforce 2 mx 100/200 32 mb.
Game works fine with patch 1.09 but i had to change my vide card grivers to the older version - forceware 71.89 from forceware 81.95. Since then i din't have any CTD. Evrything seems ok now:D. Sorry for my English.
 
Aussie_Lurker said:
Well, it has finally happened-I have finally had all the whining that I can take. Check the polls and you will see that the majority-around 80% of respondants have either better performance+new features, or same performance but new features-have had no problems with the patch. Those of you who are, might I suggest that the problem lies in either (a) how you installed the original game, (b) how you installed the patch or (c) your overall system. That said, please don't use your problems with the game as an excuse to accuse Firaxis of putting out a Beta version of the game, when it is actually clear that most people are having little to no difficulty with it, and are actually off enjoying the game immensely.

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
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Having 20% of your gaming audience having problems is a pretty high number. Imagine if 20% of credit cards just stopped working, or 20% of planes crashed regularly - it's not at all insignificant. You only find it frustrating because it's not happening to you!

I would say you would want 1-5% or less having any sort of problem, not the same, recurrent and significant (total crash) problems that are being described here. I can also say that as one of the 20%, it's extremely frustrating - I love Civ4, but can't get it to play properly.
I also don't agree with any of the a,b,c you listed - I installed the default install, installed the patch via the in-game update, and my system is 100% rock solid with _every_ other application. It's pretty standard component-wise too - 6600GT, A64 3200+ etc... all name brand.

Someone earlier in the thread suggested having a larger pool of beta testers, or a wider spread - I don't know what happened here, but with so many people clearly having issues, it appears that their beta methodology could have been improved. It's clear so much effort went into making the game as great as it is - it would just be better if it ran smoothly on 99+% of systems!
 
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