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Patch 1.09 released!

MY GOD MAN. my point is you cannot say it works for x amount of people or it doesn't work for x amount of people. because x is unknown. So stop spouting off with numbers that you can not support.
I can say it is not my hardware or my software. I can say that my systems all test awesome with all other products. I can not say the same for civ on my systems. My 5 systems plus 10 from the lan parties and only one can finish a game without a ctd or hard lock.
I can say that if the game worked for me I would not be wasting my time in here. I would be playing the game. I can also say I am sick of this back and forth. I can also say go nuts. Spout all the numbers you want. Say whatever you want. do whatever you want. I can also say you and aussie should get together if there is room on the bandwagon. Good luck with that. I am done with this back and forth. Go forth with your polls and believe in santa while your at it. Either way firaxis still messed up. either way the game still does not work. Either way no patch will fix the game until the expansion pack. They need the money to pay for firaxis.
 
blue3c, I must admit I'm disappointed. I put down specific arguments and questions, I would have preferred specific answers.

blue3c said:
MY GOD MAN. my point is you cannot say it works for x amount of people or it doesn't work for x amount of people. because x is unknown. So stop spouting off with numbers that you can not support.

So you agree that your tallying of complaint threads vs "It's great" threads was without any merit, because you just cannot tell how large the number of people with problems is anyway? But then, why did you do it?

Also, why did ask for a poll when you knew that no one can provide one which satisfies your criteria for solid data?

blue3c said:
I can say it is not my hardware or my software. I can say that my systems all test awesome with all other products. I can not say the same for civ on my systems. My 5 systems plus 10 from the lan parties and only one can finish a game without a ctd or hard lock.

Well, I can say that the game works for me, as for my friends. None of us has experienced crashes or any problems to run the game so far. But as you said, these are single cases that can't be generalized. They don't represent the solid data you want. But then, why do you bring them up? There's no use in that when you have to discard them for the discussion because they aren't "solid data".

As a side note, when your hardware runs awesome with *all* other products, please tell me your specs. I plan on buying a new PC next year and I don't know *anybody* who can claim that his gaming rigs perform that stellar for *all* games. It would be great to have such a system.


I won't answer to the part with "go nuts" and "believe in santa".


blue3c said:
Either way firaxis still messed up. either way the game still does not work. Either way no patch will fix the game until the expansion pack. They need the money to pay for firaxis.

I'm sorry that you already made up your mind on that one. I think that Firaxis will disprove you, and patch Civ4 as dedicated as they patched all their other games. Let's see how it turns out.
 
purplengold14 said:
Just uninstall ur civ 4. It should have a check box saying unistall patch. Just check this box and not the whole game.

Not seeing the checkbox. When I go to add/remove programs and click remove it launches the unistaller and asks if I want to remove the whole program and all its accessories. I clicked no...it cancelled the uninstall, should I be clicking yes?

I'm not seeing an uninstall on the cd startup either.

The game was running fine for weeks prior to downloading the patch. No offense to Blue and I don't know why your's is not working on all those different setups, but you should look to see if they all have something in common.

To let you know what's working for me, I'm just running right now on a stock gateway GT5012...2.8G Pentium D, 1G ram, 128M shared stock graphics. The game wouldn't work right on my p.o.s. laptop, Athlon XP-M, 512M ram, only 64M graphics. But my laptop always overheats with everything.

What's interesting to me is that Sid's Pirates runs slow but visible on my laptop, but is all jacked up, graphics wise, on my desktop.

I'm looking to upgrade my graphics on my desktop, but I think I'll wait until firaxis works out the quarks in civ first...too many compatibility issues. Anybody have any 256M that are working with this game?
 
joe8137 said:
Not seeing the checkbox. When I go to add/remove programs and click remove it launches the unistaller and asks if I want to remove the whole program and all its accessories. I clicked no...it cancelled the uninstall, should I be clicking yes?

I'm not seeing an uninstall on the cd startup either.

The game was running fine for weeks prior to downloading the patch. No offense to Blue and I don't know why your's is not working on all those different setups, but you should look to see if they all have something in common.

To let you know what's working for me, I'm just running right now on a stock gateway GT5012...2.8G Pentium D, 1G ram, 128M shared stock graphics. The game wouldn't work right on my p.o.s. laptop, Athlon XP-M, 512M ram, only 64M graphics. But my laptop always overheats with everything.

What's interesting to me is that Sid's Pirates runs slow but visible on my laptop, but is all jacked up, graphics wise, on my desktop.

I'm looking to upgrade my graphics on my desktop, but I think I'll wait until firaxis works out the quarks in civ first...too many compatibility issues. Anybody have any 256M that are working with this game?

hey joe, i think he is talking about gong throught the setup for the game you get an option to uninstall and you can choose what to uninstall. The patch being what you would check.
No offense taken. Glad you had it working. from what I can tell it could be the best one yet.
I had no prob with pirates on any setup. Whats really fun is installing the original pirates playing that for a bit and then switching to the new one. :D
 
blue3c said:
hey joe, i think he is talking about gong throught the setup for the game you get an option to uninstall and you can choose what to uninstall. The patch being what you would check.
Checking this box just means that the install will leave the downloaded patch file in your "My Games/sid Mieir's Civilization 4" folder. It does not mean it will unistall the patch and return the game to the original state. Only a full uninstall/reinstall will do that.

As do the other check boxes. If you want to leave that stuff - save games, screenshots, profiles, custom configuration, uncheck the boxes.

The game will still totally uninstall except for leaving that stuff you check alone.

Also, if you have an ATI card, you must undo the 'fix' that unpaked the art0.fpk file for the patch to fully install. The art0.fpk must be in the proper place before running the patch, and the files you unpaked should be deleted.
 
To those saying people like me join CFC just to whine, well, there's no real technical support so of course we end up here. The Take2 site STILL does not have the patch listed for Civ4!
Plus, I used to visit CFC a lot before getting Civ4, but never felt compelled to join the forums... was happy just reading strategy articles etc.

I think something that's really missing here is the understanding that a lot of people are just frustrated - I think 95% of people love the game.
We should remember we're all Civ Fanatics!!

Those of us "whiners" just want to be able to play the game we all enjoy on pretty typical setups. As the patch has had a (it seems) generally positive effect, it looks like Firaxis are getting on top of some of the issues, so perhaps now some of the more obvious ones are out of the way they'll be able to focus on some of the more difficult issues and get the game working for the 20% of us that currently "enjoy" the "one more turn, then CTD or freeze".
 
holy crapsticks, as much fun as it is to read flamewars, this one is annoying me.

All i have to say is that my game wasnt working, the patch was meant to fix it but made it worse. I am not making this up. There appear to be other people with my problems, so this suggests it is not my fault. I would like the problem to be rectified, so i can play my game which i have paid for with my own money.

that is all.
 
CTDsux said:
holy crapsticks, as much fun as it is to read flamewars, this one is annoying me.

All i have to say is that my game wasnt working, the patch was meant to fix it but made it worse. I am not making this up. There appear to be other people with my problems, so this suggests it is not my fault. I would like the problem to be rectified, so i can play my game which i have paid for with my own money.

that is all.

What problems are you having??

It's really easy to give people the freedom to post messages on a messageboard to complain about whatever they want, but seldom do they ever try to offer suggestions as to how to fix a problem, or what exactly their problems are.
 
Okay, here's a weird one. When installing from CD, the installer fails at the very end. Maybe a problem with the disc or something. The installer just quits before adding to the installed programs list, but it's installed on my hard drive and otherwise plays just fine.

But, when I try to install the patch it tells me "The setup has detected that no version of Sid Meier's Civilization 4 is installed. This update requires that a previous version of the application be installed."

It is installed! I even get this message trying to update from in-game.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
Gkyluig said:
Okay, here's a weird one. When installing from CD, the installer fails at the very end. Maybe a problem with the disc or something. The installer just quits before adding to the installed programs list, but it's installed on my hard drive and otherwise plays just fine.

But, when I try to install the patch it tells me "The setup has detected that no version of Sid Meier's Civilization 4 is installed. This update requires that a previous version of the application be installed."

It is installed! I even get this message trying to update from in-game.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Fix it the microsoft way. Uninstall, reboot, reinstall (this time to a different directory) reboot. Download patch using in game update system. reboot and attempt to play.:crazyeye:
I don't suggest patching, especially if you are already having problems. ie ctd bsod and the dreaded hard lock. I would wait for the next patch. But if you must I would suggest the above instructions.
If you are wondering why I say the in game installer. I have downloaded from the patch from several sites and got different size patchs and such. At least with the in game update you know your crap is coming directly from firaxis/take2.
Good luck and god bless. :beer:

quick edit, is the disc clean?? do you have a different drive to install game from??
 
Well I got the patch, and I've joined these forums because reading them has saved my sanity while waiting for a patch to be released.
It's fixed up my leaders as eyeballs problems but I still have the fog of war problem! :mad:
I hope they keep working on this!
 
blue3c said:
quick edit, is the disc clean?? do you have a different drive to install game from??

The full game installer from the CD is the problem. Disc 2 came with a bit of a ding on the edge, so the installer would almost-but-not-quite finish. I'd get an error, at which point the installer would simpy uninstall everything automatically. After about a half dozen tries, I discovered that by killing the installer at the last minute, it'd leave the game complete but for adding it to the installed programs list.

Well, I just tried reinstalling again, and for some reason this time it worked. Weird, the CD is just as chipped. In any case, the patch now installs as well. Hooray!
 
I think we all agree WE LOVE THE GAME!. Its fantastic and I just really want to sit down and really give it hell for hours and hours. I cannot wait to get into the nitty gritty details and micromanagement. One things for sure .... do you think I would be here wasting my hard earned gaming time if I was happy with the playability of this fantastic game? NO SIR. None of us would be .... the forum would be deserted.

Lets somehow try to just share the faults as we find them and try to see if we can isolate a pattern that may HELP Fireaxis techs. Forget the blame ... we cannot change whats happened but we CAN change tomorrow and work together to test things out. Yea I know we are not Beta testers but I for one do LOVE the Civ games. Anger is a natural response but once we get past that let us help one another.
 
It didnt fix the one bug that I was most aware of.

the wonder videos are corrupted and the leaderheads don't show 95% of the time.

Everything else works beautifully.

i have upgraded everything, reinstalled rebooted etc...

It seems to me that people have a plethora of different problems with the game, but no one so far has described this one.
Am I the only one with this problem?
 
Smite, try this-it was suggested to me earlier in this thread.

Go into your Civ4.ini file and search for 'Bink' in the text. This first Bink file you come to asks if you want Bink video to be in true colour or not. Set this value to =1 (it is set to 0 by default). This eliminated my video stuttering altogether. If that doesn't work, then I am afraid that I am at a loss (btw, you couldn't change the bink settings in the pre-patch version of the game).

Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
 
Hej!

This patch didn’t solve the problem with the game slowing down to unplayable after about 20 minutes.
I don’t even know if the patch is installed cause the installer seems to fail in the end.
I want a patch that makes this game work.
I’ve paid good money for this game. I even had to upgrade my graphics card to meet the recommended specifications.
I want a patch that makes the game work now.:mad:

Simna.
 
Works fantasically for me! Game runs far more smoothly, espically at the opening of the game.

It does seem to have replaced one minor problem with another minor problem for me. I used to have choppy sound while watching the wonder movies, that has been solved by the patch however I now have choopy video during the wonder movies. I am using a Creative Live Value sound card, a ATI Radeon 9700 video card and 1gig RAM with DirectX 9.0c. Does any body have any ideas how to solve this? Thank you.
 
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