He's gone and it doesn't seem like he's arranged for anyone to play his turn. Since I am in fact his ally I would be willing to play it and I'm sure he won't mind when he comes back if I told him I played his turn. To me, the idea of letting the ai play someones turn in a time of war is proposterous.
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Wait since when was Austria at war with anyone?
I have not seen any posts that they where attacked by anyone.On the twenty first he said he'll be out of town with no internet for most of the week. If he hasn't arranged for anyone to play his turn this is ridiculous. We can wait for him or you guys can trust that I am his ally since he has troops in my territory and we have a rop and let me play the turn, or you can skip is turn in which case i will quit because without both the countries that he's supposed to playing I don't stand a chance. I think all of you see where this is going, it doesn't really matter though since you would have all found out soon enough anyway.
Well I have a problem with the both his countries he is playing. I had a good relationship with Prince of Persia and a city trade deal and I had also helped him out by allowing his ships to move into place and bombard Amsterdam. Now he is gone and a new player takes over and now I am at war with that new player or will be if he sneak attacks me on the next turn.
I think there should be some kind of restriction on attacking me right off the bat at least 1 turn now that there is a new player taking over for Germany kind of a unfair manipulation of the game mechanics if you ask me.
Who is to say that PoP left because he was against what you and Bowsling wanted to do? I am not sure of your plans but the timing stinks all around and the fact that Bowsling knew his turn was next and did not leave instructions for it is also odd?
So in closing I am not sure what to do about this but let's see if some other players wish to way in on this situation.
Thanks for your patience Tasonne we will find a way to work this all out
PS Quote by Tasonne "I don't stand a chance. " This is true if Germany and Austria Joins watch out!!!!
France? What sort of dealings did you have with PoP before he bailed? You must want to get this situation sorted out seeing as how, I hate to be so blunt to with whom I've sworn my allegiance to, your neck is on the line here as well. Of course, I won't elaborate too too much here but, it was my understanding this whole thing was in check and we had some sort of plan.
Could you really see the not so numerous Balcan peoples marching off to their deaths without some kind of real strategy? Believe it or not I would never have been willing to do what I did alone lol. I haven't spoken to pop in some time now, however my understanding was that someone was in contact with him and they knew what he was intending to do, hence why I did not initiate any recent dialogue.
Jureil, you say you were on good terms with the Germans? Hypothetically, if we were decide to go along with what I think Bowsling's intentions are, which may or may not have been the intentions of the Germans, I would be willing to give that turn of grace time. I don't feel, however, that this should affect the orders of the Austro-Hungarian troops stationed in the Balcans, poised to strike the Ottomans. As well, the Ottomans are lucky to have had the opportunity to reinforce and counterattack before the Austrians join in.
Could you really see the not so numerous Balcan peoples marching off to their deaths without some kind of real strategy? Believe it or not I would never have been willing to do what I did alone lol. I haven't spoken to pop in some time now, however my understanding was that someone was in contact with him and they knew what he was intending to do, hence why I did not initiate any recent dialogue.
Jureil, you say you were on good terms with the Germans? Hypothetically, if we were decide to go along with what I think Bowsling's intentions are, which may or may not have been the intentions of the Germans, I would be willing to give that turn of grace time. I don't feel, however, that this should affect the orders of the Austro-Hungarian troops stationed in the Balcans, poised to strike the Ottomans. As well, the Ottomans are lucky to have had the opportunity to reinforce and counterattack before the Austrians join in.
TomYo689
Emperor
Guys I don't think anything about in game matters for this situation. We don't have to investigate the mislead drama to look turns and rules.
At the time Bowsling left it was certain he would miss his designated turn window. He did not dictate a plan for his turn so the rules of the game states it should be skipped. By joining the game you agreed to the 48 hour rule that Rick made, it was one of the first things he even wrote on this thread. It did not have a loop hole for wars.
The context of the in game situation is irrelevent for the matter of someone playing his turn for him. Unless he said it on the forum then no one else can be sure if he wants it done by them. For someone isolated from the conflict all they might know is the two are enemies and one guy is sabotaging the other guys empire. Locked alliance is different but we are talking about 2 otherwise totally random players. I'm not doubting the claim because I see more than a random guy claiming to be an ally on the forum lol but why shouldn't anyone else? What if your rival claimed to be your ally while you were gone and played your turn?
It's definitely not fair to give a player a priority over others. The turn time rule is very friendly with making arrangements or asking for time, neither of which occured. If I (or an ally) didn't do my/their turn in time I would hope it was skipped on schedule too.
Can't deny the conflict is of interest to my position. That probably makes my stance no different from that quoted above. So I'm ok with waiting. You guys gotta recognize this is not a viable alternative to the 48-hour-or-substitute-or-skip-rule.
At the time Bowsling left it was certain he would miss his designated turn window. He did not dictate a plan for his turn so the rules of the game states it should be skipped. By joining the game you agreed to the 48 hour rule that Rick made, it was one of the first things he even wrote on this thread. It did not have a loop hole for wars.
The context of the in game situation is irrelevent for the matter of someone playing his turn for him. Unless he said it on the forum then no one else can be sure if he wants it done by them. For someone isolated from the conflict all they might know is the two are enemies and one guy is sabotaging the other guys empire. Locked alliance is different but we are talking about 2 otherwise totally random players. I'm not doubting the claim because I see more than a random guy claiming to be an ally on the forum lol but why shouldn't anyone else? What if your rival claimed to be your ally while you were gone and played your turn?
It's definitely not fair to give a player a priority over others. The turn time rule is very friendly with making arrangements or asking for time, neither of which occured. If I (or an ally) didn't do my/their turn in time I would hope it was skipped on schedule too.
I believe I might be at a disadvantage if the rule is executed properly therefore the rule must be disregarded
Can't deny the conflict is of interest to my position. That probably makes my stance no different from that quoted above. So I'm ok with waiting. You guys gotta recognize this is not a viable alternative to the 48-hour-or-substitute-or-skip-rule.
If skipping his turn wasn't going to affect me very much, I would say do it. Yes, I joined the game and agreed to the 48h rule. I will point though we had a kind of verbal contract stating we all had time for this and that people would not be dropping out or going missing. I expected more from everyone. Each time I was absent I let everyone know well ahead of time and had someone play my turn, it's not very hard it takes five minutes out of a day to send a few messages and make this whole this just go a whole lot smoother for all of us. That said, TomYo, I am very appreciative of your willingness to wait and I am not more amused by this situation than anyone. Germany, among some others, is one of the countries that should indefinitely be played by an at least somewhat competent person.
TomYo689 said:
We're planning an attack here broseph. It's not a question of whether I might be at a disadvantage, I'll be finished! This is D-Day here buddy, and you are the main course lol!! If the Austrian turn is skipped and, god forbid, the Germans: your doom may well have just been averted! Just kidding, but seriously though people, what is up with Bowling just ducking out like that in the middle of such a pivotal turn? I am not happy, mostly since everyone has to wait for somebody I am supposed to be in dialogue with more than anyone.
I agree with you that Bowsling's intentions most likely are to join in on this war on your side but I am not positive if he was. Who is to say he was not planning on double crossing you? A slim chance I know but I still don't understand why he would not post something about his up coming turn if he knew for a fact he was declaring war this turn?
It still boggles my mind on that one. I also emailed PoP early this morning to see if he would play Bowslings turn for him but have not got a peep out of him yet.
AnthonyBoscia
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We need to either wait for Bowsling's return or have the AI play it. Having another player take the turn without the missing player explicitly announcing it is not cool. I'm fine with waiting a couple days if the consensus is OK with that.
A general request for either Bengal or TomYo. Both you guys have posts on page 1 near the start of the thread. Would one of you mind editing your post with an updated roster for the game? With the dropouts and substitutions it would be nice to see exactly where we are at. We want to know that everyone who is still in the game wants to play.
I'll be away this weekend from Friday through Tuesday (27-31 JUL) but I doubt that my turn (Japan) will be reached by then. On Thursday I'll post a substitute if necessary.
A general request for either Bengal or TomYo. Both you guys have posts on page 1 near the start of the thread. Would one of you mind editing your post with an updated roster for the game? With the dropouts and substitutions it would be nice to see exactly where we are at. We want to know that everyone who is still in the game wants to play.
I'll be away this weekend from Friday through Tuesday (27-31 JUL) but I doubt that my turn (Japan) will be reached by then. On Thursday I'll post a substitute if necessary.
Eclipse4449
Deity
I'm not going anywhere, I'll wait
look at the bright side lol
True That!
Well I have worked long and hard to bring this game back from the dead and this delay kind of sucks but I would rather wait a few days then to screw it all up. I will wait on Austria but I still think if he is now taking over Germany as the new owner he should have a one turn delay on declaring war on anyone, unless his ally Austria is attacked before the German turn. Then after that all's fair in love and war!
Jureil said:
I wish France would back me up on this. It was my understanding that we had been planning this for some time now and I thought that pop was aware, however I may be incorrect. All I know for sure is that Bengal Tiger and Bowsling had been in direct contact with me in regards to the impending attack and I assumed pop was right with us. Rick was actually supposed to be as well. Thus you can imagine how disappointing his situation was for me, his help would have been invaluable.
Eclipse4449
Deity
Honestly I think its ok to wait a just couple of days, I think there are several players here that truly want to play THIS game and while we wait we should do a rolecall during this time. This rolecall will point out the players that are devoted and separate them from those that do not follow this thread (Does not receive instant notifications etc) these players have no idea whats happening unless they get the turn in their inbox and at that point it is weighed against R/L (I'm not saying the last part to be funny, I know real life is more important than a game but if you list all the things you do in a day and playing a turn is dead last, Well that just doesn't help the game)
I agree with the update
Someone that posts regulary here could add that post to their Sig for easy access from almost any page Eclipse4449 said:
Like I said before, if you're out of town or something, unable to play your turn or just busy, it takes five minutes, out of your precious day, to send a message or two so that we're not all stuck here.
Wasn't pop supposed to find a replacement for himself? Was that not one of the things we agreed on? German Empire just get stranded? It's kind of a waste, right?
I honestly did not really know what I was doing coming into this game, I played a little bit of single player but not really. Now I've played through a few of the civs on my own and I understand a lot more about the scenario itself. That's why I'm pretty excited about this new game with the Russians, I know what to do now, plus a better pos'n. If The Balcans end up getting stomped out it's not really a big deal to me now that we have this new game. But i mean, you basically have four major powers right, Germany, France, Britain and the Usa. Each of them with a 10/10 inf. They are superior, kind of of have to get behind one, at least early on, especially a nation like the Balcans. If you, Britain, with a 10/10 inf is going against France's 10/10 inf plus, hypothetically, Germany's 10/10, Austria's 8/8, and me, and the Ottomons have a 7/7? The British are out gunned on this one, the choice has been clear for me the whole time, to stick with my brothers in Europe.
Bengal Tiger
Emperor
I'm a little annoyed this is out in the open, but I had an agreement with Germany that they would declare war on Britain in exchange for Brussels. Austria-Hungary agreed to go along with the war as well. Although the fact this is now public knowledge lessens the impact it would have had in game. I suppose it might be possible theywere trying to double-cross me, but for them to do it together, without informing anyone on the opposing side makes it highly unlikely.
However, I am pretty put off that PoP bailed at such a key moment, and with Bowsling unable to play his or his ally's turn, it is I who takes the full brunt of the damage.
However, I am pretty put off that PoP bailed at such a key moment, and with Bowsling unable to play his or his ally's turn, it is I who takes the full brunt of the damage.
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