Peaceful AI Civs

[BreadBull]

Gandhi is NOT peaceful once you get nukes.

And if you don't mind a bit of "cheating", you can play on Settler or go edit the game's files where they never declare war on you .

 

[Halathen]

Thanks for all of the replies, I'll try out some of the suggested Civs.

Try high sea level archipelago. They're generally peaceful, when not sharing borders with you.

That's a good idea. We've been playing mostly large island maps, but we did try an archipelago one too. I had made the sea levels low so we had more land, I'll try with high sea levels next time.

 

[Civking5]

None of the AI's are peaceful. In essence, civ5 is a war game, and the fun part is the war.

 

[msawchuk]

Sejong is pretty peaceful, but Pachacuti, Siam, and Rome are vicious.
Sejong is always super friendly in my games. He is a guaranteed friend... until I invade him. Pachacuti is the exact opposite. He is a 100% chance for a DoW at some point during the game. Siam is also pretty evil, but not as much as Rome. Rome is the number one reason for me to go from a very good game to a horrible one. He will march 20+ units into my borders when I least expect it.

 

[aluelkdf]

My wife does not like the war part of Civ V, so when we're playing a game, I try to put in AIs that are likely to play a peaceful game.

I'm just wondering why she doesn't like the war part of civ. Does the war part make her anxious or nervous or something? Im just curious why she doesn't like war. I can understand if it does, its normal to be on the edge of your seat while an invading army is approaching, and can potentially consume everything you worked so hard to build. But a human player shouod be able to beat the AI in combat, you just have to keep your cool.

Maybe you could try a larger map while reducing the number of civs. This will reduce competion for land and should reduce wars (at least until the late game).

 

[The Economy]

Kamehameha peaceful ???

Spoiler :

That guy is like Napoleon, made worse by the fact he can spam cities far and wide across continents in the really early game.

Is this a mod that shows which policies the AI has chosen? Can you tell me the name of this mod?

 

[Lord Yanaek]

From what i observed in my games, i would say :

• Very Peaceful (will nearly always DoF unless you are the worst warmonger, will alway be obliterated if they start next to a warmonger) : Theodora, Ramkamhaeng, Pacal, William
• Somewhat peaceful (won't DoW you unless provoked or lured by another AI or you are very close to them and appear weak) : Sejong, Wu Zetian (this may be surprising, but she rarely DoW me, she tends to DoW other AIs more often, but i sure don't know what those AIs did to her), Harun, Isabella, Gengis Khan (i'm not crazy, this guy will try to annex every CS on the map, but he DoWed me only once, in a deity GotM, obviously he's a PITA as a neighbour, but he will rarely attack you directly)
• Occasionally peaceful (can be peaceful but be careful that they can also be aggressive) : Maria Theresa, Haile Selassie (plus, he's a pain religion-wise and a real jerk to denounce you while you have DoF. I avoid DoF him so ican capture his Great Prophets when they come to my lands in groups of 3).
  Ramsesses, Washington, Nabuchadnezar (whatever it's spelled) and Kamehameha all can be friendly if they start far away from you, but are dangerous if close. Kamehameha is special because he tends to settle all over the map and will always have close borders with everyone, so if you are more tolerant to him than AIs, you can make a real friend of him, it's great if you are Warmonger as he seem very tolerant for this.
  Gandhi. Really he can be very peaceful but he can become pissed of you for plenty reasons, especially if you defend too well against a warmonger and once he's pissed of you, only obliteration will prevent him from nuking you when he gets nukes
• Rarely peaceful (be careful if they are on the map, especially close to you. Be careful if they are close to peaceful civs as they will often annex them and become powerful) Suleiman, Oda Nobunaga, Napoleon, Catherine (she's especially dangerous, maybe because of her doubled strategic ressources), Montezuma, Hiawata, Harald Bluetooth, Gustavus, Darius (very dangerous very early), Boudica, Augustus, Attila, Askia.
  Of those, Harald, Attila and Askia might be the least dangerous as they tend to overfocus on military and fall short in thechs (unless they can capture enough cities early). Attila is also bad on keeping cities as he razes them more often. I actually like him when playing warmonger as he really doesn't care how many cities you burn and can be a great friend (provided you can keep him alive when more technologically advanced civs grow tired of him )
• Never to be trusted (aggressive and unpredictable/treacherous. Those are the worst civs to have on a map from my PoV) Alexander, Dido, Elisabeth, Bismark. Note that Dido is less a trouble as she's worse at winning her wars than the other 3.

Any civ can be friendly if they are on another continent and any civ can be kept guarded but peaceful if your army is powerful enough (by shear number of tech level)

 

[smallfish]

Is this a mod that shows which policies the AI has chosen? Can you tell me the name of this mod?

Nah, this was a PAINT cut and paste job for an LP I wrote. Those policies were mine, so I wanted to show it without having to lug in two shots...

 

[Koiranputki]

From what i observed in my games, i would say :

• Very Peaceful (will nearly always DoF unless you are the worst warmonger, will alway be obliterated if they start next to a warmonger) : Theodora, Ramkamhaeng, Pacal, William
• Somewhat peaceful (won't DoW you unless provoked or lured by another AI or you are very close to them and appear weak) : Sejong, Wu Zetian (this may be surprising, but she rarely DoW me, she tends to DoW other AIs more often, but i sure don't know what those AIs did to her), Harun, Isabella, Gengis Khan (i'm not crazy, this guy will try to annex every CS on the map, but he DoWed me only once, in a deity GotM, obviously he's a PITA as a neighbour, but he will rarely attack you directly)
• Occasionally peaceful (can be peaceful but be careful that they can also be aggressive) : Maria Theresa, Haile Selassie (plus, he's a pain religion-wise and a real jerk to denounce you while you have DoF. I avoid DoF him so ican capture his Great Prophets when they come to my lands in groups of 3).
  Ramsesses, Washington, Nabuchadnezar (whatever it's spelled) and Kamehameha all can be friendly if they start far away from you, but are dangerous if close. Kamehameha is special because he tends to settle all over the map and will always have close borders with everyone, so if you are more tolerant to him than AIs, you can make a real friend of him, it's great if you are Warmonger as he seem very tolerant for this.
  Gandhi. Really he can be very peaceful but he can become pissed of you for plenty reasons, especially if you defend too well against a warmonger and once he's pissed of you, only obliteration will prevent him from nuking you when he gets nukes
• Rarely peaceful (be careful if they are on the map, especially close to you. Be careful if they are close to peaceful civs as they will often annex them and become powerful) Suleiman, Oda Nobunaga, Napoleon, Catherine (she's especially dangerous, maybe because of her doubled strategic ressources), Montezuma, Hiawata, Harald Bluetooth, Gustavus, Darius (very dangerous very early), Boudica, Augustus, Attila, Askia.
  Of those, Harald, Attila and Askia might be the least dangerous as they tend to overfocus on military and fall short in thechs (unless they can capture enough cities early). Attila is also bad on keeping cities as he razes them more often. I actually like him when playing warmonger as he really doesn't care how many cities you burn and can be a great friend (provided you can keep him alive when more technologically advanced civs grow tired of him )
• Never to be trusted (aggressive and unpredictable/treacherous. Those are the worst civs to have on a map from my PoV) Alexander, Dido, Elisabeth, Bismark. Note that Dido is less a trouble as she's worse at winning her wars than the other 3.

Any civ can be friendly if they are on another continent and any civ can be kept guarded but peaceful if your army is powerful enough (by shear number of tech level)

Yes...a pretty good analysis...though any of them can be a problem if they are close enough. But Bismarck...if I find him any where near me I immediately set my focus on "war preparations"....as soon as I can I'll build four archers and, although maybe not beelining, will try to get up to crossbows fairly quickly. Bismarck, as a neighbour, will never fail to disappoint when it comes to a DOW... Again, if he is close, I'll "use" him as long as I can, but will prepare for the DOW....

I'm currently in the early stages of a game as Spain...Emperor level, I was first to find two nearby Natural Wonders...both with food associated.. and at turn 27 I have three cities and still a small happiness surplus.... It is always surprising to me how fast you can churn through the early techs if you can get several cities going early enough. Bismarck is still friendly, but I've already PO'd another neighbour, Kamehameha, by building a city around one of the wonders I found...

 

[Lira]

None of the AI's are peaceful. In essence, civ5 is a war game, and the fun part is the war.

Actually, I'm a lot like this guy's wife: I love the game, but hate going to war (I always let the game run in the background while I do something else with my time, and war requires too much management). I only declare war on other civilisations if I really have to.

This being said, some civilisations do tend to be more peaceful than others (I agree with the analysis above), but the context also plays a large role: other empires are less likely to declare war on you if there's enough room for them to expand (so pick larger maps, and maybe fewer rival civilisations), they don't share borders with you (archipelago is the way to go), and there aren't city-states to fight for.

The most annoying game I've ever played consisted in 22 civs in a tiny map (pangea, no less!). No one would ever leave me alone

 

[Rooftrellen]

Theodora, Wu, Isabella, William, Harun, and Rameses rarely DoW on me, and if I want to provoke a way, it generally takes a lot of effort. Theodora is the least peaceful on this list, I'd say, but only because she seems to be bribed into wars easily (she almost always declares with someone more aggressive). Ramses tends to hate my guts, but he'll very rarely act on it, unless I become a runaway and start spamming wonders.

Khan, Washington, Boudicca, and Oba love to attack, but generally only early. All three of them can become good friends after the initial attack, and Mr. Khan is probably the best watchdog in the game, loyal and powerful enough to actually help. Washington is prone to backstabbing late.

Gustavus, Pacal, Elisabeth, and Haile tend to have an aggressive attitude toward certain people from the start, but only Elisabeth is sure to turn on everyone at some point. (Though everyone will hear "By the grace of God, your days are numbered!" with her in the game). She tends to bite off more than she can chew, however, and Pacal and Haile don't generally mount enough of an offensive to be dangerous. Gustavus gets a little cranky over warmongering, but he's not hard to get and maintain a friendship with.

Siam (not even going to try the name), Napoleon, Augustus, Cathy, Hiawatha, Darius, Alex, and Bismark will all hunt you down like a dog if you are in their way. All are also prone to becoming runaways, and to make it worse, Persia and Siam tend to be on everyone's good side until they declare war on them, making both powerful and hard to successfully counter (leave them one city, chain denouements are coming, just defend, and they'll come back for more later). Augustus is more competent than most with his units, Hiawatha generally has terrible land for trying to attack, and Alex WILL control several CS's. Avoid these like the plague if you want peace!

Monty is a cat if you are strong. He's always afraid early it seems, but he tends to spam units to pump up his point sticks number, though when he attacks, he's normally using hordes of low tech units. If you stay prepared for war, it's unlikely he'll ever pull the trigger.

Gandhi deserves special mention. He's peaceful if you are, but he tends to finish wars once started, and he can often take on the more aggressive civs early, making him dangerous. He'll also be friends with everyone sooner or later, so either staying on his good side or exerting more diplomatic pressure than him (it takes some time to master, but it is possible) is mandatory with him in the game, otherwise everyone will late you.

Pretty much everyone else is a wildcard. Dido can be hellbent on world domination or say she's your best bud and actually mean it. Suleiman is a force to be reckoned with, but he is also quite loyal unless he just happens to decide he wants to be a jerk that game.

 

[compwiz1202]

I know Gandhi always is for me. Austria and Siam are usually fakers to me. They are friendly then they take off the mask and backstab me.

 

[Rpger29]

I've given up on being friendly with the AI civs. I find that the sight of burning cities tends to put the AI in its place.

There will be peace when the children of my civ are playing songs on flutes made from the bones of our enemies.

 

[compwiz1202]

I've given up on being friendly with the AI civs. I find that the sight of burning cities tends to put the AI in its place.

There will be peace when the children of my civ are playing songs on flutes made from the bones of our enemies.

Yea like the Huns always being hostile from the second I met them until the one game I conquered a city, and after peace he was Guarded or Neutral the rest of the game and stopped the insults.

 

[compwiz1202]

Catherine is mostly hostile toward me, but one game she was friendly the entire time. She had the rest of the Civs down to one or two cities but never bothered me.

 

[Novalia]

Askia is always my bud. We're always making friendship declarations.. We don't care.. We yell it loud so everyone hears!

True story.

 

[Loucypher]

It seems to just vary so much. Like that list above? Calling Pacal friendly? Yeah, tell that to the 7 Atalatists and 4 Warriors that found their waterloo at the walls of Orleans yesterday. It even came complete with the "Shall we say I'm reinterpretating our friendship" line. At the same time, Harald Bluetooth and me are BFF's...

 

[Aaron90495]

It seems to just vary so much. Like that list above? Calling Pacal friendly? Yeah, tell that to the 7 Atalatists and 4 Warriors that found their waterloo at the walls of Orleans yesterday. It even came complete with the "Shall we say I'm reinterpretating our friendship" line. At the same time, Harald Bluetooth and me are BFF's...

As others have said, their attitudes can vary wildly based on A) where you and them are located on the map, B) their random dice rolls for the game, and C) what you've/they've done diplomatically.
If you have very little to no units, pretty much EVERY civ will attack. On the flip side, if you have a large military (relative to other civs), very few will attack you.
Think about it the other way: if you saw a civ with 3 cities and 2 units, wouldn't you try and take them out?

 

[Zezima]

Civs that are not naturally aggressive and militaristic can become aggressive if they roll a personality that makes them very expansion-happy. I think this mostly explains the behaviors of leaders like Hiawatha, Kamehameha, and Pacal, who can be very loyal and friendly in certain circumstances, but change drastically as the game goes on.

I haven't analyzed game code personally, but I believe that civs in general are coded to behave aggressively towards militarily weaker civs regardless of context. Aggressive expansion just incidentally leads to a larger military as well.

 

[steveg700]

Siam peaceful? I wish. Them dang elephants r OP!