Peaceful game - nice try

[slowcar]

It seems that being feared by having the greatest army kind of guarantees the peace. it contradicts the "playing to win", of course.

 

[CrispyCritter]

It seems that being feared by having the greatest army kind of guarantees the peace. it contradicts the "playing to win", of course.

It's not "the greatest army". In my all-peaceful game, Montezuma's army was far more powerful than mine. In terms of "pointiest sticks" he was a factor of 15 greater than me in the last poll I saw (roughly 30,000 to my 1,800). He also had a very definite tech lead, finishing the Manhatten project long before I could have even started it, and making it to the Future era much before me.

But, just as in real-life, I had enough sticks to make a conventional defensive war very painful for him, and not worth it. I would have been annihilated if I tried to attack him at any time in the game.

What helped in defense, and probably his lack of cause for war, was we didn't have any very close cities. Stonehenge + Kreposts (+ later SP) did wonders at establishing more distant borders and then filling in my internal empty spaces to avoid the mid-game AI city expansion.

 

[radiohodet]

Do you trade with the civilizations your attackers hate? I really don't understand why people have such difficulties with keeping the peace (except at the two highest difficulty levels). Does open borders have anything to do with it? I never sign those.

Last Emperor game I had two military units (although upgraded, I was number 1 in science) until the modern era. Was only declared on once when Germany wanted my city state, which is fair enough. He was too far away to launch an attack though. I was third last in the pointiest stick ranking.

I was neighbour with Russia and had Rome just across the bay. Two of the biggest warmongerers. Songhai, India and Germany was also on the same continent.

Find a common enemy. Keep everyone focused on them. Don't trade with that civ (Maybe it doesn't matter, but I'm paranoid enough to never do it.... ) Participate to the alliance. Give them gifts when they ask for it.

The only times I've been attacked "without" reason in this game (king/emperor pre and post patch) is when I'm number 1 in the score table, or when someone wants to kill you right off the bat.

 

[Mustakrakish]

Do you trade with the civilizations your attackers hate? I really don't understand why people have such difficulties with keeping the peace (except at the two highest difficulty levels). Does open borders have anything to do with it? I never sign those.

Last Emperor game I had two military units (although upgraded, I was number 1 in science) until the modern era. Was only declared on once when Germany wanted my city state, which is fair enough. He was too far away to launch an attack though. I was third last in the pointiest stick ranking.

I was neighbour with Russia and had Rome just across the bay. Two of the biggest warmongerers. Songhai, India and Germany was also on the same continent.

Find a common enemy. Keep everyone focused on them. Don't trade with that civ (Maybe it doesn't matter, but I'm paranoid enough to never do it.... ) Participate to the alliance. Give them gifts when they ask for it.

The only times I've been attacked "without" reason in this game (king/emperor pre and post patch) is when I'm number 1 in the score table, or when someone wants to kill you right off the bat.

If that is the case, and it could, then this is another example of their lack of will to show us the necessary information. I mean all considering, they very much could have decided this to be part of the "behind the scenes", "less transparent" diplomacy thing.

Dammit, now you made me paranoid...

 

[Baleur]

After patching the game and having some spare time (travelling) i decided to play an emperor game (down from deity, to get a feel) with Ghandi, trying not to ICS but building large cities, just for a change.
I signed cooperation pacts with 4 Civs and we were a merry round, denounced Alexander together when he declared on one of "us" and I happily settled.

Beginning of the middle ages it all goes to hell. Even the most remote civs want my land, all my neighbours dropped to hostile and one of my best friends took 5 turns from friendly to hostile, denouncing me and finally declaring.

I started the game enjoying the new diplomacy, but now they all go bonkers that much faster then before.

I just want to play a peaceful game, but absolutely no chance as it seems. I guess dropping the difficulty would make no difference, as the "you are expanding to rapidly" or "we want your land" treshold would be reached earlier.

I know..
WTB a beyond the sword expansion.