Pericles has a wrong helmet...

[stealth_nsk]

By far the worst leader to me is Gandhi. He looks like the offspring of a troll doll and ET with serious birth defects. No other leader in the game comes close to how unsettling Gandhi's appearance is.

It could be intentional. Gandhi should be creepy, a hidden terror.

 

[Zaarin]

Fair point. Or maybe he's just been spending too much time around his nukes in a 50s B-movie.

 

[darko82]

I think there are many leaders in the game that look far worse and have far worse animations--Pedro II looks nothing like he did in real life and instead looks like an Aardman animation character; Tomyris and Hardrada have weirdly jerky animations, Gandhi looks like Gollum, etc. At least Barbarossa looks (in his face) like certain paintings of him, and the long beard of Barbarossa you speak of shows up in few works portraying Barbarossa in his older days, and certainly his beard is at least full enough to lend credence to the idea that people gave him a nickname based on his beard.

Pericles in my opinion is one of the most ahistorical portrayals in the game along with Pedro. He may lack the jerky animations of Tomyris, but he's definitely weird and completely ahistorical. Not only is the helmet not a fit (let alone practical), he looks like a weak old crazy doomsayer or cranky librarian with a Zeus beard (or a comic portrayal of Archimedes) instead of the real Pericles, a more majestic and healthy (and youthful) looking general with a less unruly beard and a more practical and realistic helmet.

Also, no, many people literally *just* took issue with Barbarossa's armor. See the Facebook discussions of the Barbarossa first look videos for one, and these forums for another. You are the first person to criticize his facial appearance that I have seen.

Pericles is simply old but shaved. With a helmet that could be fixed.

What I do not like about Barbarossa the most is his strange body animations, hands. They look akward and unnatural.

As for the armour he should wear chainmail with a red cloak/cape or something like that and a proper helmet.

Long beard and long hair would also make him look a lot "cooler".

To sump up, I like nothing about him at the moment.

Spoiler :

 

[Martinus]

I really hope the devs don't read this forum. Because the amount of negativity and complaints over minutiae going on over the last two weeks or so would really encourage me to quit and start brewing beer, or something, like the devs did at Bioware.

If you are annoyed by this, or armpit hair, or "Eurocentrism", or lack of maps on load screen, or "resting animations", then perhaps rather than playing computer games and interacting with people, you should seek medical help.

 

[Slayan]

I really hope the devs don't read this forum. Because the amount of negativity and complaints over minutiae going on over the last two weeks or so would really encourage me to quit and start brewing beer, or something, like the devs did at Bioware.

If you are annoyed by this, or armpit hair, or "Eurocentrism", or lack of maps on load screen, or "resting animations", then perhaps rather than playing computer games and interacting with people, you should seek medical help.

Same here

 

[Thormodr]

I really hope the devs don't read this forum. Because the amount of negativity and complaints over minutiae going on over the last two weeks or so would really encourage me to quit and start brewing beer, or something, like the devs did at Bioware.

If you are annoyed by this, or armpit hair, or "Eurocentrism", or lack of maps on load screen, or "resting animations", then perhaps rather than playing computer games and interacting with people, you should seek medical help.

Should people roll over and blindly accept everything?

I'm sure the developers read everything, good and bad. That is a good thing. I'm sure they also know how to filter out the unreasonable demands from the reasonable requests.

Anyway, if you are insinuating that people who want the game to be better are mentally ill, there really isn't much more to say.

 

[darko82]

I really hope the devs don't read this forum. Because the amount of negativity and complaints over minutiae going on over the last two weeks or so would really encourage me to quit and start brewing beer, or something, like the devs did at Bioware.

If you are annoyed by this, or armpit hair, or "Eurocentrism", or lack of maps on load screen, or "resting animations", then perhaps rather than playing computer games and interacting with people, you should seek medical help.

With this approach games would never get better and better and more realistic.

 

[Martinus]

It's not about the game being "more realistic" (in fact, a game about immortal Teddy Roosvelt ruling Americans in 4000 BC will never be "realistic"). It's about nitpicking over creative artistic decisions, which by their nature will always be arbitrary.

None of the us has played the game so we do not know if it is good or bad, but it seems like it could be very good. It's one thing to discuss the rules of the game, but complaining about shape of a helmet, or a civilization symbol or colour is just extremely offputting.

But as I said, hopefully the devs do not read this forum, and fortunately it represents an entirely negligible part of the fan base, so they can safely ignore it completely.

 

[darko82]

It's not about the game being "more realistic" (in fact, a game about immortal Teddy Roosvelt ruling Americans in 4000 BC will never be "realistic"). It's about nitpicking over creative artistic decisions, which by their nature will always be arbitrary.

None of the us has played the game so we do not know if it is good or bad, but it seems like it could be very good. It's one thing to discuss the rules of the game, but complaining about shape of a helmet, or a civilization symbol or colour is just extremely offputting.

But as I said, hopefully the devs do not read this forum, and fortunately it represents an entirely negligible part of the fan base, so they can safely ignore it completely.

Shortly, it is about realisticly looking leaders. The visuals have impact on immersion whether you want it or not.

The devs do read this forum, fortunately. And they listen to feedback, fortunately. For instance, people were complaining that Teddy was too fat, not as in real life. And they improved him. And now he looks great. Most people are happy with him.

And yes, I do like this version of Pericles despite some flaws that could be improved.

 

[killmeplease]

pericles is great, my 2nd fav leader so far (Philip being the 1st)
his appearance may be slightly inaccurate but its nowhere near the ridiculous full plate barbarossa

 

[killmeplease]

the other thing is his bare armpits. Old poor guy needs to shave at this age

greeks and romans used to remove body hair afaik

 

[darko82]

greeks and romans used to remove body hair afaik

I do not know. But I think this concerns other leaders in the game, too.

 

[The Fanatical]

It's not about the game being "more realistic" (in fact, a game about immortal Teddy Roosvelt ruling Americans in 4000 BC will never be "realistic"). It's about nitpicking over creative artistic decisions, which by their nature will always be arbitrary.

None of the us has played the game so we do not know if it is good or bad, but it seems like it could be very good. It's one thing to discuss the rules of the game, but complaining about shape of a helmet, or a civilization symbol or colour is just extremely offputting.

But as I said, hopefully the devs do not read this forum, and fortunately it represents an entirely negligible part of the fan base, so they can safely ignore it completely.

Good gameplay and good artistic representations are 2 entirely different things.Some people are enthusiast about how the game works and others care more about the looks.Devs should take into account all of their fanbase.Gaming companies that ignore their customers,can let people ignore their overpriced dlcs safely as well.Besides people that make such threads complaining about the game,want to improve it and not kill it.Even minor improvements will make the game look and feel much better in general.

 

[SMcM]

I preferred the generally more realistic Civ 5 leader style, but this one has grown on me (especially since they mended Teddy Roosevelt). The animations of the leaders being cartoonish does not bother me as that is clearly what they were going for.

 

[Jabulani]

I don't care about the helmet, Pericles just seems to be quite over the retirement age instead, that's renders him not dangerous, being him a granny.

 

[SMcM]

I think the helm is just a decoration for a politician. Pericles looks like as if he no longer should go into battle

That must be the reason the helmet looks as it does. Otherwise why would Firaxis make such as silly mistake?

 

[Browd]

Pericles was still Strategos when he died in 429 (apparently from plague). So, geriatric-appearing or not, he was still leading the Athenian army up to the time of his death, during the Peloponnesean War.

 

[SMcM]

Pericles was still Strategos when he died in 429 (apparently from plague). So, geriatric-appearing or not, he was still leading the Athenian army up to the time of his death, during the Peloponnesean War.

Before outdated action heroes were cool .

 

[Teproc]

Never mind, feel free to delete this.

 

[Jabulani]

Pericles was still Strategos when he died in 429 (apparently from plague). So, geriatric-appearing or not, he was still leading the Athenian army up to the time of his death, during the Peloponnesean War.

Maybe an elite-spy could convince Pericle to choose a grave from the catalogue distracting him from the war, therefore he would make more strategic mistakes for 30 turns