permanent alliance

[Kopernikus1979]

We have tried a MP game with the option "permanent alliance". But how does it work in the game? First I though I got have an alliance with a player just from the beginning of the game, second I thought I could do an alliance in the game...but it was not possible.
Thanks for your help.

 

[General Kahpnar]

YOu have to get a certain Tech. Can't remember the name look over the tech tree near industrial times.

 

[Dida]

Police state and communism can get your permenant alliance. it is hard to get the AI to join you though.

Question: can you form permanent alliance with more than 1 civ? In my game, the Mongols and British have join together.

 

[Daniel Jackson]

Permanent Alliance is a diplomacy option, just like Open Borders or Defense Pact. It's a bit wonky, though, once an AI refused to join me in one because I was too powerful... don't quite see the logic.

EDIT: But, I don't know which tech it is, precisely.

 

[Dida]

Just to answer my own question, I just made permanent alliance with 3 other AI civs, we joined together as a block. 3 opposing civs joined another block against us. That was interesting, but comes way too late. I will modding the game to make this availible earlier.
I was playing a game with 18 civs.

 

[GamesMan]

Guys, guys, guys: The permenant allience is made BEFORE the game actually starts. My best friend and I play that setting non-stop since Civ4 came out. It's great: any tech you get, they get, and visa-versa. Seeing each other's maps/units is done from the get-go also. Just check the settings, and make sure you and your friend are on the same team (both #1 for example), and your joined at the hip for the life of that game

 

[Soryn Arkayn]

Guys, guys, guys: The permenant allience is made BEFORE the game actually starts. My best friend and I play that setting non-stop since Civ4 came out. It's great: any tech you get, they get, and visa-versa. Seeing each other's maps/units is done from the get-go also. Just check the settings, and make sure you and your friend are on the same team (both #1 for example), and your joined at the hip for the life of that game

I believe you're referring to a "Locked Alliance" game, which IS a starting option.

But there is the Diplomacy option of establishing a permanent alliance with another Civ later in the game. I don't know if more than two Civs can establish a PA, although players have already said in this thread that you can.

 

[Kissamies]

I just formed permanent alliance with Egyptians. I can see why it's disabled by default. Very powerful. Oh, and the tech required was Communism. I think Facism allows it too, but can't remember it for sure right now.

 

[Dida]

In my last game, there were 17 civs, (Americans were knocked out early on), 4 of them, me, Rome, Japan and Spain joined as a block, while England, Monoglia and Greece formed another block. It was really interesting. Felt like WW2 or cold war.

 

[yendorII]

I have been having trouble here as well. I cant even get it as an option in the diplomacy screen. Someone above said communism and police state do you have to have those civics to do it. BTW I have the tech for it because I have all the techs right now so that isnt the problem.

 

[Nevermor09]

But have you allowed for permanent alliances to be formed at all.
i have only played customs, and if i remember correctly u have to check permanent alliances for them to be made in game.

 

[Dida]

In main menu, click on 'custom games', there you can check 'permanent alliances'.

AIs should actively seek permanent alliances though, as this will present challenge to the human player.

 

[yendorII]

OHHH I hadnt realized that thanks guys and gals.

 

[Kopernikus1979]

So permanent alliance ist ready just from the beginning of the game?

 

[GamesMan]

It's ready from the start of the game, IF, you put players on the same team. . .

 

[justokre]

If you check "permanent alliance" and get the tech and form one, I'm guessing you can NEVER cancel it, can you?