Persian UHV Working

[Wessel V1]

I've tried both. There's a definite point though where your cash runs out and your research hits a wall, leaving time for construction or currency, but not both.
While the money and research are nice, you need need need that great wall ASAP. Otherwise you'll be fighting a 4-front war with the barbs in India, Egypt, Bactria, and Macedonia which will seriously snarl your efforts to do anything else.

Usually the real threat is from Africa (2 spearmen and an axemen will do), Bactria (I always use 3 of my archers to defend the northern pass, 1 on the forest hill and 2 next to it), and the War elephants in India may be dealt with by Spearman. Some cities can build a spearman in 1 or 2 turns, so I don't exactly see this as a problem. Defending Byzantium turns out to be much harder, but as this is a 1-front war now, some spearman and some axemen can hold it. IMO Currency is the most important tech, because all your cities (and that's a lot), receive +1 trade route, enough to ensure at least some research. I have attached a save (forgot to push enough to 8% , nevermind, it's about the research). Probably I would / should have razed Hattusas and built Sinope on the coast.

 

[LukeUeda-Sarson]

Usually the real threat is from Africa (2 spearmen and an axemen will do), Bactria (I always use 3 of my archers to defend the northern pass, 1 on the forest hill and 2 next to it), and the War elephants in India may be dealt with by Spearman.

Interesting; in my game, the main threat was the horse archers coming out of the Caucasus which you don't even mention; Byzantium wasn't a threat at all - though I thought it would be and made sure I elephants there. But they were unnecessary.

Cheers, Luke

 

[Wessel V1]

In my game I've captured Artashat (not such a bad city after all), 3 fortified spearman will do, especially defended by walls. Also, Artashat can work the deer and the Iron, so it has a decent production to build those in the city. That should be enough IMO. And the most powerful cities never face barbarian pressure, and can build a spearman / axemen in 2 turns or less, without using the whip.

 

[LukeUeda-Sarson]

In my game I've captured Artashat (not such a bad city after all), 3 fortified spearman will do, especially defended by walls. Also, Artashat can work the deer and the Iron, so it has a decent production to build those in the city. That should be enough IMO. And the most powerful cities never face barbarian pressure, and can build a spearman / axemen in 2 turns or less, without using the whip.

Ah, in my game that city was razed the very turn it spawned by aforesaid barbarians... I was going to build a city just a bit north (since by then all that area was in my borders anyway), before I realized I was already pushing the land limit, and had my settler up there before I realized my Great wall wouldn't cover it, since south of the Caucasus count as Asia, but north counts as Europe...

Cheers, Luke

 

[Visard]

I tried Persian monarch game yesterday, and it was pretty easy, there was lot of lands to take and spearmen can defend against anything. And today I tried emperor game and it was almost the same.

I got some extra Chariots, but Shush and Stonehenge was razed. I managed to conquer Babylon and India easily because neither had spearmen. Revolted to HR, OR and Slavery. Kept the research rate at 0% through all game. In Parsa, I built Granary, fishboat, forge, Moa Statues, Colossus and Great Lighthouse. In Babili, which already had Pyramids, I build Oracle, took Code of Laws and built Temple of Kukultan. Dilli built Settlers. Hattusas and Rasht built troops. I traded Aplhabet and Metal Casting from Greece, Acriculture from China and Iron working from Carthage.

After conquering Babylon and India I moved all my Immortals to Egypt and pillaged everything. And managed to take Siwa and later the Capital. After that I take Yerusalem and Sur, colonized India and Arabia, vassalised Ethiopia, built shrine in Pattala and Yerusalem, used Caste System to get culture boost, built research to get Aesthetics, and finally built Statue of Zeus in Parsa \o/ 47812.

Notes:
-Barbarians made other civilizations weak. At least Babylon and Greece.
-I didn't get my starting workers, because I moved my capital to wine hill, but captured 6 from Babylon and India.
-Mathematics, Currency and Calender are all waste of time.
-Spearmen rocks

 

[Kaxen]

In my game the victory condition says control 8% of world territory by 140 AD, not 600 AD. I tried it and lost after only conquering babylon and just about to invade india. How am i supposed to win in that short amount of time? I could have had a good chance if it was 600 AD.

The civilopedia says the version is v1.184, so why is my version different?

 

[civ_king]

Start as Babylon, kill India and Egypt, delete troops when persians spawn, build wonders, spam settlers, then you switch to Persia, get Music, Culture Bomb FTW

 

[Virdrago]

It says Turn 140. 140 A.D. would be about then. I just finished the Persian as well, and had 8.5% by then. I invaded Babylon immediately, then India. Waited a few turns, then took Yerushalayim, Hattusas, Niwt-Rst, and Barb Byantion. Got the first UHV even with only Niwt-Rst and Byzantium (didn't need the rest of Egypt and Greece, even when they declared on me).

Babylon had the Pyramids. I only learned Mathematics, then was at 0% science the rest of the way. Was going for Constuction. Still had enough money that even at 0%, was only losing 5gpt. With over 400g, I didn't need Construction. Cats, spears, HAs and Immortals did it, later Axes/Swords.

The main thing is to take Babylon and India early, and get the Pyramids. Don't worry about Calendar. Use Dilli and whip temples for Priests. I also built ToA, to speed the process.

I founded two cities besides the original Sirajis and Artacoana (in India N of the Elephants and Hudaspes in Afghanistan), the rest were taken. Hudaspes was just to fill space; Sirajis and Dilli had most of the area with their culture.

Got three GPs from Dilli, but the third wouldn't have made it to Yerushalayim before I got the third UHV, so I settled her (Jeanne D'Arc) in Sirajis. Ethiopia was Buddhist, Rome was Hindu.

Took Per-Wadjet, Athenai, Sparte, and Artashat after the first UHV.

It can be done. Attack early.

Persia just before victory: