PH04: One Happy Family
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pholkhero
Deviant Mind
alright, Oracle, sweet!! I agree w/robo to use the GP for Civil Service so let's not research Masonry. Instead, why don't we go with Alphabet to trade some techs and make nicey-nice with some neighbors. Also, have we taken OB agreements w/any of them yet??
My over-arching strategery was something like: try to be friends w/all but the largest (or 2nd largest) civ, spread our State Religion to them all, and vote ourselves to a Diplo Victory. Thoughts from the group?
My over-arching strategery was something like: try to be friends w/all but the largest (or 2nd largest) civ, spread our State Religion to them all, and vote ourselves to a Diplo Victory. Thoughts from the group?
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
FYI...
01 Pholkhero >> on deck
02 Karr1255 >>
03 Robo Kai >>
04 Scowler >> just played
05 Xerol >> UP NOW
01 Pholkhero >> on deck
02 Karr1255 >>
03 Robo Kai >>
04 Scowler >> just played
05 Xerol >> UP NOW
Meatbuster
formerly Robo Kai
That's the plan then. I agree with using GP for CS, and the religious-based Diplo victory strategy.
So... HC probably won't be our rival since there are two others out there bigger than he is (based on the largest civ popup).
So... HC probably won't be our rival since there are two others out there bigger than he is (based on the largest civ popup).
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
alright, anybody else??
@ Xerol ~ have you got it??
remember, too, we get to have one vassal, and a nice thing to do w/a vassal is to raze their cities before they capitulate (esp if you can't afford the maintenance costs) and then the vassal resettles the land ~ this way, their "land size" increases and it makes it harder to lose your vassal from them losign cities.
@ Xerol ~ have you got it??
remember, too, we get to have one vassal, and a nice thing to do w/a vassal is to raze their cities before they capitulate (esp if you can't afford the maintenance costs) and then the vassal resettles the land ~ this way, their "land size" increases and it makes it harder to lose your vassal from them losign cities.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
@ Xerol ~ if you can, let us know your situation re: the save ~ otherwise, i'll play tonight.
Hi guys. This is just to let you know that I currently have a problem with my Civ machine. I'm hoping that it won't take more than 24-48hrs to fix, but this is just to let you know to skip me if my turns come up during that time. I'll keep you informed if it looks like taking longer. Sorry.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
thanks for the heads-up, but i can't see us coming back around to you in 2 days though ~ 
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
i've played, but won't be able to report until tomorrow.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
my report last night go eaten by the board 
so i'm posting again now
T00/1480:
I move out the Conf Miss from Delhi. I'm thinking that since this is the only Missionary we've got, let's try to spread Confucianism to our neighbors.
T01/1440:
Moving and exploring
T02/1400:
Im going to send this ConfMiss up to Genghis lands since hes the only missionary we have at this time
T03/1360:
Tipu Sultan (GP) is born.
I send him east for now. Im thinking perhaps we should build the Conf shrine (?).
Bombay: Hindu Temple(?) > Warrior to defend our new settler once hes finished; the temple here, I think, mightve been some
as we aint near the happy limit yet, but itll be good to have the extra insurance.
I convert us to Confucianism in anticipation of our new neighbors.
T04/1320:
I dial up our neighbors:
Both are kind enough to accept our OB agreements.
Also, i don't know why i have this picture
but notice that Ning Hsia has gotten Hinduism
I *think* i converted us back. So much for the Confucian plan.
1320:
T.S. arrives in Bombay.
I put him to sleep for now. I guess the Hindu shrine may be teh way to go now.
T05/1280:
Bombay: Warrior > Settler
T06/1240:
AH comes due, and I head for Pottery next to get some cottages up. We're going to need, if not the tech lead, *some* sort of tech edge in order to trade and keep some friends.
T07/1200:
Our warrior is moving NW to the new city site and the settler should be done shortly.
Here's an overview of our empire:
I stopped at 7 to even up the turn count. I'm not sure exactly what the number is, but it ended in 7 when i started so
I think we should focus on Alphabet and Sailing in the near term in order to a)trade w/our neighbors, and b)to actually MEET our neighbors. As I said earlier, I think getting to Caravels rather quickly and nabbing the circum nav bonus will be a GREAT thing
so i'm posting again nowT00/1480:
I move out the Conf Miss from Delhi. I'm thinking that since this is the only Missionary we've got, let's try to spread Confucianism to our neighbors.
T01/1440:
Moving and exploring
T02/1400:
Im going to send this ConfMiss up to Genghis lands since hes the only missionary we have at this time
T03/1360:
Tipu Sultan (GP) is born.
I send him east for now. Im thinking perhaps we should build the Conf shrine (?).
Bombay: Hindu Temple(?) > Warrior to defend our new settler once hes finished; the temple here, I think, mightve been some
as we aint near the happy limit yet, but itll be good to have the extra insurance.I convert us to Confucianism in anticipation of our new neighbors.
T04/1320:
I dial up our neighbors:
Both are kind enough to accept our OB agreements.
Also, i don't know why i have this picture
but notice that Ning Hsia has gotten Hinduism
I *think* i converted us back. So much for the Confucian plan.1320:
T.S. arrives in Bombay.
I put him to sleep for now. I guess the Hindu shrine may be teh way to go now.
T05/1280:
Bombay: Warrior > Settler
T06/1240:
AH comes due, and I head for Pottery next to get some cottages up. We're going to need, if not the tech lead, *some* sort of tech edge in order to trade and keep some friends.
T07/1200:
Our warrior is moving NW to the new city site and the settler should be done shortly.
Here's an overview of our empire:
I stopped at 7 to even up the turn count. I'm not sure exactly what the number is, but it ended in 7 when i started so
I think we should focus on Alphabet and Sailing in the near term in order to a)trade w/our neighbors, and b)to actually MEET our neighbors. As I said earlier, I think getting to Caravels rather quickly and nabbing the circum nav bonus will be a GREAT thing
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
hopefully this link will work
Pholkhero >> just played
Karr1255 >> UP NOW
Robo Kai >> on deck
Scowler >>
Xerol >> awol?
Pholkhero >> just played
Karr1255 >> UP NOW
Robo Kai >> on deck
Scowler >>
Xerol >> awol?
Pre turn - Moved GP to hindu holy city
T1 - Build the shrine and switch to hinduism. It's further spread and it improves relations with Ghenkis. Also we benefit from the +2 great priest points in the right city.
T2 - zzz
T3 - Madras found on the spot and it starts a library. Thanks to the shrine we still get +1 gold at 100% research
T4 - zzz
T5 - Pottery comes in and i start meditation. So that we can build monasteries and spread the faith. Remember that we can't get masonry or our plan to pop CS is over.
T6 - zzz
T7 - Settler done and I move him 1W of the Gold to our south
T8 - Barracks done in Delhi. Maybe not necessary but there was nothing to build for a few turns
T9 - Huayna builds the Great Wall. And I settle Bangalore, our 4th city, next to the gold.
T10 - Meditation is in and research set towards CS. The next Prophet spawns in 4 turns and although I don't know the correct numbers he won't give us the whole tech. But the next player can change that since no beakers are invested. Bombay finished an Axeman on this turn and starts a Hindu monastary. We still need to convert Mansa and our 3rd and 4th city also lack Hinduism. We still only have 1 worker, I suggest Delhi starts one after growth (aligned with the finish of a granary).
T1 - Build the shrine and switch to hinduism. It's further spread and it improves relations with Ghenkis. Also we benefit from the +2 great priest points in the right city.
T2 - zzz
T3 - Madras found on the spot and it starts a library. Thanks to the shrine we still get +1 gold at 100% research
T4 - zzz
T5 - Pottery comes in and i start meditation. So that we can build monasteries and spread the faith. Remember that we can't get masonry or our plan to pop CS is over.
T6 - zzz
T7 - Settler done and I move him 1W of the Gold to our south
T8 - Barracks done in Delhi. Maybe not necessary but there was nothing to build for a few turns
T9 - Huayna builds the Great Wall. And I settle Bangalore, our 4th city, next to the gold.
T10 - Meditation is in and research set towards CS. The next Prophet spawns in 4 turns and although I don't know the correct numbers he won't give us the whole tech. But the next player can change that since no beakers are invested. Bombay finished an Axeman on this turn and starts a Hindu monastary. We still need to convert Mansa and our 3rd and 4th city also lack Hinduism. We still only have 1 worker, I suggest Delhi starts one after growth (aligned with the finish of a granary
).
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
Sweet! it looks like we're still only losing 2 gpt @ 100% ~ gotta love shrine income.
I agree, too, on teh future game plan. Get another worker out @ Delhi (perhaps with the help of the whip), and then let's start working on spreading the One True Faith It may be good to have one city focus on missionaries for awhile to convert the entire continent. We can have one other city work on missionaries to spread the faith to OUR cities.
also, while we are waiting for the GP to pop, perhaps we should think about researching towards Sailing ~ we may be able to get fishing while we wait
FYI:
Pholkhero >>
Karr1255 >> just played
Robo Kai >> UP NOW
Scowler >> on deck
Xerol >> not awol; i gave him leave by not updating the roster, but back in business
I agree, too, on teh future game plan. Get another worker out @ Delhi (perhaps with the help of the whip), and then let's start working on spreading the One True Faith
It may be good to have one city focus on missionaries for awhile to convert the entire continent. We can have one other city work on missionaries to spread the faith to OUR cities.also, while we are waiting for the GP to pop, perhaps we should think about researching towards Sailing ~ we may be able to get fishing while we wait
FYI:
Pholkhero >>
Karr1255 >> just played
Robo Kai >> UP NOW
Scowler >> on deck
Xerol >> not awol; i gave him leave by not updating the roster, but back in business
I already had a similar city specilization in mind: Delhi has a barracks and can build some military after a worker. Bombay is now starting on the monastery and can get out some missionaries. Hinduism has already spread a little more in Khans territory on its own.
Xerol
Emperor
Well, remember that the AI almost always swaps to the first religion to get inside their borders. So, Phase 1 would be to get Hinduism to one city in each neighbour. Phase 2 would be to spread it to our own cities, so all cities can eventually (with OrgRel) build missionaries. Phase 3 would be to flood the AIs with missionaries. It may help to build a missionary "outpost" near or on the other side of the AIs just for the purpose of quickly moving missionaries to their targets, as we can only have 3 at a time, and any time we have 3 moving, we can't be building any more.
The sailing plan sounds like a good one - we could go for Optics after CS and get some Caravels out to quickly move missionaries to coastal cities.
The sailing plan sounds like a good one - we could go for Optics after CS and get some Caravels out to quickly move missionaries to coastal cities.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
I never thought of a MissOutpost, but that's a grand idea; boy i'm glad i PM'ed youXerol said:
Optics and Missionary-laden caravels sound good to me, too.
For the religion spread:
We have 3 civs with us:
A. Ghenkis - already a die hard hindu
B. Huayna - founder of Buddhism so he won't change anytime soon
C. Mansa - doesn't have a state religion
So we really only have to send one to mansa and everyone is happy. And I couldn't go towards org. religion because we need to burn the next great prophet on civil service first.
We have 3 civs with us:
A. Ghenkis - already a die hard hindu
B. Huayna - founder of Buddhism so he won't change anytime soon
C. Mansa - doesn't have a state religion
So we really only have to send one to mansa and everyone is happy. And I couldn't go towards org. religion because we need to burn the next great prophet on civil service first.
Xerol
Emperor
I know, but just as a future plan. And we need to find a way into Huayna's pants territory, and convince him that Hinduism is better before all of his cities are Buddhist.
