Robi D
Minister of (Dis)Order
Matrix said:"I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Is that meant to be a hint
Pitboss game within the team
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Is that meant to be a hint
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
All Lurkers please read:
This is mainly for the un-initiated in MP spoiler threads.......You are allowed to visit all of the spoilers, but please do not taint other players with information you got by reading another spoiler. This hasn't happened yet, but with interest arising in spoilers, there could be some cross-contamination with lurkers.
Please just be careful with what you post in people's spoilers. If in doubt, leave it out.
This is mainly for the un-initiated in MP spoiler threads.......You are allowed to visit all of the spoilers, but please do not taint other players with information you got by reading another spoiler. This hasn't happened yet, but with interest arising in spoilers, there could be some cross-contamination with lurkers.
Please just be careful with what you post in people's spoilers. If in doubt, leave it out.
You could also simply join instead of reading spoilers. 
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
Yes... there are at least 2 maybe 3 AI that are still available last I checked
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nameless one
I joined as India (was AI played) and could log in once and enterd a password. Now that I try to log in for a second time, it does not take my password. I am very sure I did not mistype and I already tried w/o caps, whats wrong?
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
did you change your details? if so, it corrupts your password. You might need to be kicked and try again.
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nameless one
I did not change anything, but I had a look at the "your details" and "game details" page.
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nameless one
Ok, found out that it just gets md5 hashed (good programers joke). Problem is fixed please don't kick!
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
How did you fix the problem? It could be useful to know for future games.
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nameless one
It seems the password is md5 hashed (that's a form of encryption). Normally you enter your password, then it gets encrypted and the encrypted form is compared to the encrypted password in the database. There seems to be a bug that encrypts the already encrypted password again if you open the options dialog. I give an example:
Your pass is "my_password".
The md5 hashed version would be "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4".
If you open the options page the game enters "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4" as your password and encrypts it again, so it will be "14a9b33303b23bd087a7d32d911fc49a".
You can get a utility to md5-encrypt your password here http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/
In the above example you would open up a command line and enter md5 -l -d"my_password". It will give you the string "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4" which you have to enter as your password in civ4.
I found this information somewhere in this forum, but can't re-find the thread now.
Your pass is "my_password".
The md5 hashed version would be "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4".
If you open the options page the game enters "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4" as your password and encrypts it again, so it will be "14a9b33303b23bd087a7d32d911fc49a".
You can get a utility to md5-encrypt your password here http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/
In the above example you would open up a command line and enter md5 -l -d"my_password". It will give you the string "a865a7e0ddbf35fa6f6a232e0893bea4" which you have to enter as your password in civ4.
I found this information somewhere in this forum, but can't re-find the thread now.
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
very interesting. I guess if you do it twice you would have use the 14...... number.... dare I try it
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nameless one
@Dave: Well, I just copied it to a notepad file 
Tubby Rower
Chronic Slacker
He copied the encrypted password to a notepad file... Sorry I can't dumb it down any more
What is happening is basically![[civ4]](/images/smilies/civ4.gif "Civ4 [civ4]")
encrypts the encryption so that your new password is the encryption of your original password..... sorry that didn't work either
What is happening is basically
encrypts the encryption so that your new password is the encryption of your original password..... sorry that didn't work either
grs
nameless one
It is hard to explain in simple words, but I'll try.
If you enter a password in any program or website for the first time it has to be stored/saved somewhere. This is usually done with an encrypted version of the password. A simple form of encryption would be to change all characters to the next one in the alphabet so "hello" would become "ifmmp" (h=i, e=f, l=m, o=p). MD5 is a different, much more complex form of encryption, but that should not bother us now.
Once you have to enter your password for the second time the following happens:
a) you enter "hello"
b) it gets encrypted to "ifmmp", by the formula above
c) it is compared to the stored encrypted version of the password, which is again "ifmmp" (see above)
You may find that complicated. Why is the password encrypted before the storage and comparison? The reason is security. In complex encryption formulas it is not possible to reverse the encryption. That means you can't derive the unencrypted "hello" from the encrypted "ifmmp", like you could above. Hard to imagine? - Just trust me!
If you enter a password in any program or website for the first time it has to be stored/saved somewhere. This is usually done with an encrypted version of the password. A simple form of encryption would be to change all characters to the next one in the alphabet so "hello" would become "ifmmp" (h=i, e=f, l=m, o=p). MD5 is a different, much more complex form of encryption, but that should not bother us now.
Once you have to enter your password for the second time the following happens:
a) you enter "hello"
b) it gets encrypted to "ifmmp", by the formula above
c) it is compared to the stored encrypted version of the password, which is again "ifmmp" (see above)
You may find that complicated. Why is the password encrypted before the storage and comparison? The reason is security. In complex encryption formulas it is not possible to reverse the encryption. That means you can't derive the unencrypted "hello" from the encrypted "ifmmp", like you could above. Hard to imagine? - Just trust me!
Anyway.
BCLG100, Russia (Peter) is still available.
BCLG100, Russia (Peter) is still available.
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