You get food a lot earlier from a wheat flood plain than from a polder on a flood plain though, and polders only get better at Economics. Best thing of course as the Dutch is to settle on a wheat flood plain rather than a normal flood plain.
Plantation on banana not worth it?
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You get food a lot earlier from a wheat flood plain than from a polder on a flood plain though, and polders only get better at Economics. Best thing of course as the Dutch is to settle on a wheat flood plain rather than a normal flood plain.
Unless that has changed recently, the removal of jungle always results in a plains. So Bananas with plantation is 41
, or 3
Plains under bananas is 6 food.
Hill is 5 + 1 production.
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No it's not... Plains always gives +1 production, even with plain bananas or plantation bananas.
I checked the tooltip over a plantation in game. It's 6 and over a hill too.
kingchris20
Wisdom Seeker
At max output, 1 banana tile can support the food requirements of 3 citizens!
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I think that's a fair point. I also didn't like that, visually, it was really unappealing to have an unhealthy city even when it strategically didn't hurt to do so.
bcaiko
Emperor
Great People improvements can also be built on bonus resources. In fact, a Banana academy is often a good idea! Hurry, feed those scientist brains bananas!
Vuffster
Chieftain
These are both good points. I do like the simplification, and lack of ugly green smog; I just wish that bonus resources mattered a little more than they do now. Wheat, bananas, and deer don't even unlock an extra building.
TomKQT
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I agree that bonus resources should have more uses. Certainly not a completely new feature like health in CivIV, but maybe +1 local happiness? Or even more food than now?
It wonder why don't they boost trade routes like luxuries & strategic resources do. After all livestock is a commodity & similarly wheat etc are kind of valuable especially in ancient times.
Maybe a lighter boost to trade yield like 0.1 per bonus resource instead of 0.5 & this can stack for multiples copies of the same bonus resource. So for example 3 bananas & 2 wheat =0.5 added yield (equivalent to 1 luxury/strategic tile).
Another idea could be bonus resources boost internal trade routes.
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They don't unlock unique buildings, but they do get extra food from the Granary. It's just a simplification.
Pythakoreas
Chef Tain
After reading through this thread I feel a sudden urge to eat a banana.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I've thought about something like this, but just a bonus from a granary doesn't do much if all food sources tend to get it the same way.
I've suggested in the past special bonuses for different buildings depending on the resource (much like Stone is stone works, Mint is gold, silver, and copper, etc.). But it would be things like Sheep and cotton giving +1 gold if you have workshops (textiles), creating a bonus resource of Rubber that gives +1 production in Jungles and allows you to build a factory in that specific city if you don't have coal. Copper would be changed to a bonus resource that gives production or gold but still allows you to build a mint.
Basically, each resource might start similar, but it'll give you something different overall.
Vuffster
Chieftain
Sort of; you can build a Granary and get +2 food without wheat, but you can't get the +1 happiness and production from a Stone Works without stone. It makes wheat and deer in particular slightly less valuable than most other bonus resources. It's not that big a deal, of course; it's still a lot more interesting than pre-Civ IV.
Pythakoreas
Chef Tain
Bananas should be luxury resources providing happiness, I just ate one of those and I'm happier.
I can't argue with that. I'm always happier with a banana. My whole nation would be about 4 happier.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I'm generally not a fan of any food (except the most expensive and exotic) being a luxury resource. Sure, eating releases dopamine so any food source could add to happiness, but it's not a luxury. I'm not a fan of Citrus or Crabs as luxuries. On the other hand, the truffles makes more sense because of its rarity. I would replace Citrus with either Coffee or Tea (a widely traded commodity) and Crabs with coral or caviar (once again, caviar is a food, but it's clearly a luxury).
Pythakoreas
Chef Tain
Oh never mind it works.
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Should provide gold. There's always money in the banana stand.
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