Plants and the Great Library

Redbled

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Two subjects in one post here. First, is there any difference between a solar plant and a hydro plant other than the fact that the solar plant takes a bit longer and the hydro must be by a river? Also, was playing a game tonight and took over the Great Library near the beginning of the game. Somehow, I was able to get somewhere between 10-15 techs over the next few turns including code of laws and all the little ones around there, monotheism, feudalism, chivarly, engenering, theology, as well as several more. Is this a bug in my system? Sure was nice, but can't believe it happened. I was playing as Egypt, possibly my new favorite civ. What's up?
 
Personally, I don't think there is a difference between the Solar and Hydro plants except - as you say - the Solar plant does not have the river proximity restriction. Interestingly, building the Hoover Dam places a Hydro plant in each of your cities, whether they are near rivers or not. :rolleyes:
 
When you build or take over the Great Library you get all the advances that 2 other civs research, until you get Education. Not a bug :)
 
The "why the Hoover dam places a hydro plant in ALL cities" is because the computer can't count the production bonus in other ways that 1 city at a time...
 
The only differences between the Hydro & Solar plants is that the Hydro plant is cheaper and requires a river. Neither of these 2 produce pollution so they are best used to replace your coal plants to keep the production bonuses without getting the pollution. Your best replacement strategy would be to use the Hydro Plant wherever possible since it is quicker to build, and put Solar Plants in all your other cities.

As for the Great Library, as soon as you control it you will get every tech that is known by any 2 other civs you have contacted until you know Education. So if you were way behind in tech and knew most or all of your opponents, then as soon as you acquired the GL, you learned all their tech.
 
So if you already have a coal plant and then build solar/hydro plant, should you sell off the old coal plant to stop creating pollution?

I've built the non-polluting plants before but still produce pollution. I thought the creation of a solar/hydro plant automatically replaced the coal plant. What's the story there?
 
Good question civsempai. I've wondered that as well. Might as well sell it I suppose if it does no good---On the Great Library part, that is super. Suppose it just waits a turn because you can't learn a whole chain at once. Can't have Chivarly until you get Feudalism I suppose. Great Library is a lot more critical to acquire on deity level than early levels then. Do those civs have to know those techs at the time, or do you get every tech they will learn until you get to education?
 
It does automatically replace the coal plant. However, the turn before your new plant is produced, you should sell off the coal plant to get some money back.

You will still produce pollution from the Factory, Hospital, population, and a few other buildings (can't remember which ones roght now). You should notice that the pollution should drop a little by building the newer power plants. Also, building the Mass Transit & Recycling Centers really help reduce pollution from the other buildings/population.
 
Originally posted by Redbled
Do those civs have to know those techs at the time, or do you get every tech they will learn until you get to education?

The Civs have to know the techs, but as each new tech is learned by 2 other Civs, then you will learn it usually within a turn or 2. So, if Civ A knows Currency and nobody else does, you won't learn it through the GL. However, when Civ B learns it and if you have contacted both A & B, then in the next couple of turns you will learn it as well.
 
The funny part is if you have the GL, but are way behind, and then make contact, you will get a rush of techs up to and PAST education. The GL only stops working the turn AFTER you get Education. Playing on Emperor, I got a tech rush that took my well past Education (got Astronomy, Music Theory and a couple others, I think). I got a message that said the Library was obselete, but the techs kept on coming.

People have noticed this before, and I suppose it's a bug, but it's a nice bug!

-Arrian
 
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