Political Motives of Terrorists in Iraq

[Capulet]

If you guys haven't noticed yet, all the current hostages in Iraq are Muslims. This includes 3 Turks, 1 Pakistani, and one American-Muslim U.S. Soldier.
Despite them being Muslim, they are still threatening to behead them.

My question is: Why? Do they think that Muslims from other countries are supporting the war? Because I think this is very, very stupid of them.

People say that the Muslims in different countries are Anti-War, but I think that if these terrorists behead these people, the Muslims' own people, it will have a very negative effect on their views toward Iraq.

I think it's sad that the rest of the Muslim world will only realize the inhumanity of these people when their own people are killed.

That's my two cents.

 

[addiv]

Maybe they don't care if they're Muslims, since they're not Arabs? Still strange though, I thought Muslims were not allowed to fight against or kill other Muslims. Those terrorists seem to be doing everything they can to make themselves look as unattractive as possible. Perhaps they're sponsored by the US...

 

[Hitro]

They see those people as traitors. And for most people, not only those terrorists, traitors are worse than the enemy himself.

Which will also be the view of those who support them.

 

[Sanaz]

My question is: Why? Do they think that Muslims from other countries are supporting the war? Because I think this is very, very stupid of them.

You'll waste a lot of time trying to truly understand the motives of terrorists beyond the basic - they are trying to instill terror in the minds of innocent people. Occasionally there is a slight nod towards some twisted higher cause, but basically they are criminals and animals.

I think it's sad that the rest of the Muslim world will only realize the inhumanity of these people when their own people are killed.

They know, but are just as powerless to stop terrorism as everyone else is. Without a fully develped security infrastructure, there is no way to stop it. The countries where terrorism thrives are relatively poor, or in the case of Saudi Arabia, the government is so corrupt that they don't fund a true security infrastructure, or the security forces are corrupt through and through.[/quote]

 

[SeleucusNicator]

The American marine hostage has been murdered, according to reports that just came in.

 

[Capulet]

The American marine hostage has been murdered, according to reports that just came in.

Different one.
Maupin was captured April 9.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/28/iraq.main/index.html


The other American soldier (the Muslim one) got kidnapped a few days ago.

Still, very sad


(PLEASE TAKE THAT BAD MAN OUT OF YOUR AVATAR )

 

[blindside]

Have they killed the three Turkish men?

Perhaps people will realize these guys give other Muslims as much trouble as they give Westerners/non-Muslims.

 

[Capulet]

Have they killed the three Turkish men?

Perhaps people will realize these guys give other Muslims as much trouble as they give Westerners/non-Muslims.

Not yet. But Turkey rejected the demands of the kidnappers, so I think they probably will kill them.

 

[amadeus]

Easy, the five Muslims they captured were American puppets brainwashed by Zionist propaganda.

That's the way Al-Jazzera will spin it.

 

[Capulet]

Easy, the five Muslims they captured were American puppets brainwashed by Zionist propaganda.

That's the way Al-Jazzera will spin it.

What do you mean "will" spin it? Al-Jazeera has already reported on them, and they didn't describe them as "American puppets brainwahsed by Zionist propaganda." On the contrary, my super-conservative, Fox News watching friend.

Captive US marine faces execution


Tuesday 29 June 2004, 2:54 Makka Time, 23:54 GMT


US marine Hassoun Ali is one of two captives under threat


A US marine captured by a purported Iraqi resistance group is to be decapitated unless certain prisoners held in occupation prisons are released.


In a video broadcast by Aljazeera on Sunday, the Islamic Retaliation Movement/Armed Resistance Wing said US marine Hassoun Wassef Ali would be beheaded if detainees in US-led occupation prisons were not freed.

The group claims to have taken Ali captive after "infiltrating a US military base in Iraq".

The video received by Aljazeera shows a kneeling, blindfolded, moustached man in camouflage military garb. A hand holding a long sword is seen standing behind Ali.

US occupation forces acknowledged that a US marine had been reported missing.

US marine corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun has been missing in Iraq since last Monday, a spokesman for the US Marine Corps confirmed in Baghdad late on Sunday.

"Although we can't confirm that he has been taken hostage, we can confirm that that he has been absent from his unit since June 21," Major Douglas Powell said.

Hassoun was attached the the First Marine Expeditionary Force, and his unit was operating west of Falluja, Powell said.

Pakistani driver seized

Just hours earlier, an unidentified group of purported Iraqi fighters threatened to behead a Pakistani driver working for a US-occupation contractor within three days.

The captors also urged Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to shut down his country's embassy in Iraq.

The second captive was named as Yusuf Amjad, an employee of US contractor Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR).

KBR is a subsidiary of the giant Halliburton company which was once headed by US Vice President Dick Cheney.

Like other contractors for the US-led occupation, it has suffered mounting attacks on its staff.

"This man was taken after an attack on a US base in Balad," said one of the masked fighters on a tape obtained by Al-Arabiya.

"You must release our prisoners held near the US base in Balad, in Dujail, in Yathrib, in Samarra and near Abu Ghraib. You have three days from the date of this recording and after that we will behead him. We have warned you."

WHERE HAS ALL THE "ZIONIST PROPAGANDA" REPORTING GONE?

 

[Shadylookin]

I guess the western muslims can be satisfied by the belief that the terrorist will burn in Hell for all eternity, as for the rest of us I'd like to see some real justice.

 

[insurgent]

I don't think the savages think that much about their objectives and plans. They're a disorganised rabble, which can be an advantage in such a situation, and my guess is that most of them just fight against what they think is evil.

 

[amadeus]

What do you mean "will" spin it? Al-Jazeera has already reported on them, and they didn't describe them as "American puppets brainwahsed by Zionist propaganda." On the contrary, my super-conservative, Fox News watching friend.

Bah, that's the same trick Mugabe uses. In English, he tries to finesse and position himself as some kind of diplomat or statesman. In his native tounge (Shona) it's quite the opposite. What Al-Jazeera prints in English and what they say in Arabic are often quite different.

 

[Double Barrel]

There is no political motive to terrorists. You either buy into their brainwashed delusions, or you are the enemy and should be murdered.

It is pretty black and white to those called terrorists.

It is the rest of us that has problems with shades of gray.

 

[Sarevok]

The US soldier is from Lebanon who just got his Citizenship in the US. He is technically arabic as well. If they kill him, I hope the media do what they do best: Re-tell the story over-and-over again. It would show that these b******* are notfighting for Islam or for Arab nationalism, but they are fighting against civil rights and freedom.

 

[bobgote]

The US soldier is from Lebanon who just got his Citizenship in the US. He is technically arabic as well. If they kill him, I hope the media do what they do best: Re-tell the story over-and-over again.

and hope it doesn't have the same desensitising effect that playing video of the twin towers collapsing for six months straight had? (plus another 2 months starting every september from then on).

 

[AceChilla]

They have just released the 2 Turks they held hostage. They said they wanted to thank the Turkish nation for their enthousiastic demonstrations against Bush at the summit in Instanbul.

Maybe they do know how to run their public relations effectively.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

I think any organization that decapitates people on TV has some serious public relations problems and should hire a consultant.

 

[dgfred]

The US soldier is from Lebanon who just got his Citizenship in the US. He is technically arabic as well. If they kill him, I hope the media do what they do best: Re-tell the story over-and-over again. It would show that these b******* are notfighting for Islam or for Arab nationalism, but they are fighting against civil rights and freedom.

Great post .

@ DP- "consultant"

 

[samildanach]

They see those people as traitors. And for most people, not only those terrorists, traitors are worse than the enemy himself.

Which will also be the view of those who support them.

This is how I would assume they see them aswell.
However, the people doing the beheading may be more attached to Arab nationalism than the pan muslim brotherhood. Musa might be right especially if the motives of the iraqi "freedom fighters" are percieved as not being as pure as the wider muslim world would like.