Population Rushing, City Razing, and / or Abandonment

[Bill_in_PDX]

The use of any of these tactics, which will result in the deaths of civilian citizens, is a topic that needs discussion and resolution prior to our pending hostilities with the Aztecs.

To some, the use of pop rushing or razing is simply a game function, to others, it is the ruthless killing of innocents.

The purpose of this thread is to support an enventual citizenry poll that will support or deny the policy.

Post your opinions please...

Bill
Chief Justice

 

[Octavian X]

Pop rushing need only to be used in the event of an emergency, like libraries for culture, spearmen for defence, and archers for offense.

We should only raze or abandon cities that we have captured that would be captured by another nation. Cities are important, but we shouldn't lost gold from a city's capture.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

pop rushing, IMHO, is only okay when your forcing a needed improvement down a captured city. Say we needed a spearman ASAP to defend one of the newly captured Aztec cities. Then I would support pop rushing.
Also, regarding the abandoning. If we auto raze, its the game engines fault. If we have the choice to raze, i normally keep the city unless this is the thrid or fourth time ive captured it (in playing a phonetica sav, i had to raze the majortiy of Babalonia since it was back and forth between me and Rome.)

 

[GenMarshall]

In event of emergencys there is a need for a pop rush. But captured cities will not be raized, Cities are way to valuble to burn down.

 

[Leningrado]

It is ok to rush production, but only in a state of emergency, what if the aztecs are about to take valhalla, or bavaria, god hopes it doesnt happen, we should rush some spearman.

 

[Chieftess]

I agree - only in an emergency. It gave me an extra 20 turns in a GOTM game once. (GOTM4 I think) - even though I lost...

 

[eyrei]

I say it should be used anytime the citizens of a given city aren't working hard enough...

 

[Octavian X]

Perhaps we could pop rush some votes on law changes to make sure they reach quroum

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

I think we should not use such tactics.

When our panzers roll through newly annexed additions to the empire, the people should be lining the streets to welcome their new rulers without fear of death.

 

[Cyc]

Quoting eyrei:
I say it should be used anytime the citizens of a given city aren't working hard enough...

Ah...reminds me of the good ole days. I am against pop rushing in this game for any reason. If some of you say "only in an emergency", you will have to qualify every situation involved with "an emergency", and then I would probably see those qualifications bent and broken anyway.

NO POP RUSHING!!!

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Proposed Polls

I propose posting the following polls on this topic. Please advise any recommended changes or comments.

Poll #1 - Shall Fanatikan official policy allow the use of Pop Rushing to build improvements or units?

YES - At any time, for any reason
MAYBE - Conditionally, during emergencies (a seperate discussion and poll to follow)
NO - Never, for any reason
ABSTAIN

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Poll #2 - Shall Fanatikan official policy allow the razing of captured cities?

YES - At any time, for any reason
MAYBE - Conditionally, when deemed to high a culture risk (seperate discussion and poll to follow)
NO - Never, for any reason
ABSTAIN

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Poll #3 - Shall Fanatikan official policy allow the use of "abandon city" options?

Note, this is different that moving a city by building a settler

YES - At any time, for any reason
NO - Never, for any reason
ABSTAIN

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

It should also be noted that Razing is defined for this discussion as choosing the Raze option after capturing a city.

Small cities with no culture are destroyed during the attack, that is an unfortunate circumstance of war, but something we would have no control over.