Problems To Edit A Scenario By Delete Civs !!! Please Help

[Shadoz]

Hi guys.

I have a big problem and hope you can help me please ...


I have a premade scenario / map and now i want to edit it ... on the map there are 35 civs but i want to play only with a couple of them maybe 10 or like this ... the problem now is how to handle it ... in the ingame world builder i dont know an option to delete a civic ... or i have to low experience in it ...

I opend the WBS file with notepad and looked around if there is a possibility maybe ... i deleted varios civs from the "beginplayer" till "endplayer" line from every team i dont want to have and filled up the lines with the standard format like this ::

before:


BeginPlayer
Team=29
LeaderType=LEADER_ZARA_YAQOB
LeaderName=TXT_KEY_LEADER_ZARA_YAQOB
CivDesc=Ethiopian Tribe
CivShortDesc=Ethiopia
CivAdjective=Ethiopian
FlagDecal=Art/Interface/TeamColor/FlagDECAL_Ethiopia.dds
WhiteFlag=1
CivType=CIVILIZATION_ETHIOPIA
Color=PLAYERCOLOR_MIDDLE_GREEN
ArtStyle=ARTSTYLE_AFRICAN
PlayableCiv=1
MinorNationStatus=0
StartingGold=0
StartingX=30, StartingY=20
StateReligion=
StartingEra=ERA_ANCIENT
RandomStartLocation=false
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_GOVERNMENT, Civic=CIVIC_CHIEFDOM
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_POWER, Civic=CIVIC_OLIGARCHY
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_SOCIETY, Civic=CIVIC_TRIBAL
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_ECONOMY, Civic=CIVIC_BARTER
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_RELIGION, Civic=CIVIC_FOLKLORE
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_WELFARE, Civic=CIVIC_SURVIVAL
CivicOption=CIVICOPTION_FUTURE, Civic=CIVIC_NOTHING
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer


after:


BeginPlayer
Team=29
LeaderType=NONE
CivType=NONE
Color=NONE
ArtStyle=NONE
Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE
EndPlayer


after this i did the same with all the teams like this ::

before:


BeginTeam
TeamID=29
Tech=TECH_FISHING
Tech=TECH_HUNTING
ContactWithTeam=29
RevealMap=0
EndTeam


after:


BeginTeam
TeamID=29
ContactWithTeam=29
RevealMap=0
EndTeam


at the end of this work on deleting / changing 20 civs i dont want to have i saved and started the game ... at the first look it seems to be work, all civs i deleted arent to see or to klick at and play ... i started the map but after loading screen the technologie tree was opend without any technology it was empty ... after closing this window the game tells me you have loose i was defeted the game exit because game over and the statistik screen was opend ... what a pitty i thought ...

i cant understand why it doesnt work ... than i started a new try ... opend the edited file again and looks over it ... all was fine no failures or tipping errors ...
than i was trying to SORT them all ... before the map has Player1 = xyz Player2 = xyz etc. ... .. .
after i deleted the civs i dont want it looks like this :

Player0 - civ xyz
Player1 - empty cause deleted
Player2 - civ xyz
Player3 - empty cause deleted
Player4 - empty cause deleted
Player5 - civ xyz
Player6 - civ xyz
Player7 - empty cause deleted
Player8 - empty cause deleted
Player9 - civ xyz
...
..
.
now i was trying to sort them all by copy every player to the next empy slot from above so that there are no empty slots between all civics from start till the end ... it looks like this :

Player0 - civ xyz
Player1 - civ xyz
Player2 - civ xyz
Player3 - civ xyz
Player4 - civ xyz
Player5 - civ xyz
Player6 - civ xyz
Player7 - civ xyz
Player8 - civ xyz
Player9 - civ xyz
...
..
.

the same was done with the teams ...

after doing this i started the game and the map again ... it looks the same like before the deletied civs are missed ... after loading screen the game starts without the problem i discribet above ... no technology tree opend no message that i was defeted ... i thought wow thats cool i solved the problem i dont understand why the empty slots caused this problem but it works now ... BUT then after better looking i saw a new problem ... WTH i thought ... now the civs all have other startlocations ... the map have fixed start locations ... so i was confirmed why this happend now ... all civs i switched to the empty slots had now the startlocation of the civis i deleted and exchaned with the new one ...
i thought that in the WBS file there are located the startlocation x/y parameters ... but you can change it all like you want ... nothing happends in game ...

now here this is it ... and i hope you guys can help me out ???
how to handle these problems ? i have a map and want only to delete some civics and keep the fixed startlocations for the others i dont delete
i think it cant be soo difficult to do this ... but i dont have much experience in this and i dont know what to do next ... i tryed all i know ...


thanks for helping ...

 

[Jarlaxe Baenre]

Only 18 civs allowed with the standard dll.

 

[The_J]

Doesn't seem to be the default .dll .


Oh, welcome to CFC .

Did you try out the "stupid" attempt just to start the normal map, enter the worldbuilder and delete the warriors, settlers and possible other units from the unwatend civs?

 

[Shadoz]

Its the standard DLL i play with a mod so 50 civs are possible ...

by deleting something in WB have nothing affect ...

But after long time looking around i found a solution ... its possible to edit all you want its very nice

So if someone is interested how to delete and edit the whole civs in a existing map by WBS file opening with notepad

do the steps i describet above ...

delete the civs you dont want to have and make sure all civs / teams are in the line frome 0 - ... if there are empty slots between any civs it doesnt work ...
do this with "BeginTeams" and "BeginPlayers" ... after doing this look for "BeginUnit" thats where you star / what units you have .. you must only change the UnitOwner= to the team you want to have these units and to start on this place ... thats all ... and my problems are solved by my own

i have had multiple trys and you can change all you want really simple in WBS file )
only to edit the land plots is a hardcore work oO


the only think i didnt know how to handle or if it is possible, is how to edit the camera starting location ??? ...if i start a map the camera issnt on the starting location of my civ ... if i save and load its the same ... what a pitty - no problem but it nerved me up sometime to zoom out and looking for my civ