Producing units for rfce

[pecheneg]

I don't understand what you mean, this image of a soldier is based on artistic paintings of the Castilian army from the late 15th to early 16th century. The Paris Military Museum has at least one similar suit of armor made in Aragon

I just mean that I have seen many such artifacts and images, I was impressed by this national style of the Spaniards, and, of course, I regretted that this exotic is not among the units and is unlikely to be. But you've solved the problem. I have no complaints, I was just delighted and I praise you..

 

[pecheneg]

Idk where the mace-bearers are coming from, I also don't know what that is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace-bearer
"A mace-bearer, or macebearer, is a person who carries a mace, either a real weapon or ceremonial". .

We talked about maceman. As it is shown in the pick, it's a one handed one

It's NOT a mace. This is a Renaissance axe, which is persistently and incorrectly considered a short poleaxe.

I believe, 2 handed maces weren't a Battlefield setup... We also don't have context for the time period.

You seem to be very religious. Because

1. It is the weapon that "hombres" carry that is used without a shield in almost all images.
By the way, find at least one melee fighter with a shield here. The only shield bearer in the crowd is a crossbowman. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Полэкс#/media/Файл:Retours_Charles_VI.jpg


2. In the same images, we can find characters working in the same way with a real mace.

Spoiler :

3. And this is a special case, because a huge pile of long two-handed maces and chain maces is known from images, descriptions and archeology. And mostly – just for the renaissance.
At the same time, since you are from Hungary, I seriously doubt that you do not have stories in your school textbook about the difficult relations of the Hussites with the knights, or at least such pictures.

Spoiler :

4. Long two–handed chain maces (flail) are, among other things, a variant of the armament of the hombres de armas proper.

1500++ the shields got symbolic yes.

So you think that shields began to be abandoned 25 years after the appearance of the arquebus and mobile artillery? The picture with the total absence of shields is the second half of the 15th century.

But in-game maceman appears much earlier, further, in 1500

1. In the game, it appears after caravels, pikemen and the Globe Theater and on the same level as the Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's Cathedral.
2. How do you even manage to determine the exact date in a game where ground artillery appears AFTER frigates, simultaneously with steam and battleships, and before that, post-Napoleonic infantry and cuirassiers coexist with trebuchets? And sailing battleships and grenadiers appear there too. And at the same time, access to the Statue of Liberty opens. Share a secret.

 

[pecheneg]

I don't know,

Well, as I said, my complaints are not against you, but strictly against the model. To require everyone to understand in some detail the intricate development of the Renaissance fleet would be at least strange.

I just simply copied the introduction of the model ship mall

You mean a 3D model, obviously? But in any case, there is a specific prototype there – this is a prefabricated model https://www.shipmodeling.ru/shop/mo...elipe_OC14000-RUS/?ysclid=m075am8lx1337063738

But I think they could be something different, the person who made this model set 30 cannons on the ship,

Variations in the number of guns at the plus or minus dozen level are not a problem in themselves, in fact. Artillery sailboats are, in a sense, modular . The ships could be pre-armed /partially disarmed/re-armed depending on the theater of operations, mission, age/condition and simply the available number of gunners and artillery. It's just
1. An illustration of the "class"/ dimension of the galleon – it's not too big with all the ensuing consequences, boringly described by me in the "critical" post.
2. And yes, using just a possible artillery configuration instead of historical ones is a rather pointless exercise. So with a probability of 99.99%, the company first made a model for demand (so that there would be a lot of guns and "beautiful") and production without much fuss, and then began to think about a "historical prototype".

 

[gilgames]

Ok, so to cut this nonsense short. Let me rephrase: If I were a soldier equipped with a mace, it's 100% I would buy a shield, the moment I can afford it.

 

[voigt]

Ok, just to cool down the conversation. @tangjinfeng, do these models introduce new units or are they only skins? In any case, I would be interested by adding the southern European workers in RFC3E. Where can I find the file ? Thanks!

 

[tangjinfeng]

Ok, just to cool down the conversation. @tangjinfeng, do these models introduce new units or are they only skins? In any case, I would be interested by adding the southern European workers in RFC3E. Where can I find the file ? Thanks!

Hello bro, this southern European worker is actually a Spain worker from the Cossack 3, he is just an appearance, not special compared to ordinary workers. I converted him and his companions (including Austrian workers, United Kingdom, Poland...) But I haven't had time to make them yet! I've recently made new Templars and Teutonic Knights, and I'm thinking about a couple of variants, and I've seen your newly set civilization, are you guys considering their UU?

 

[tangjinfeng]

I think some of the bakuel post-production units are very beautiful and realistic, but they are not actually used by any mods...

Germanic cavalry

 

[HNation]

Tagging @Leoreth @GregFred187 @DrLoboto in case any of them would find some of these useful for their mods

 

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[tangjinfeng]

I'm still working, this is a Castilian crossbowman, there are many crossbowmen like this in cantiga de santa maria wearing massive scale armor

 

[tangjinfeng]

 

[DrLoboto]

Tagging @Leoreth @GregFred187 @DrLoboto in case any of them would find some of these useful for their mods

I utilized a bunch of bakuel's (really nice) units for the Mongol, pagan Turkic, Rus', and Alan factions in my version of the Sword of Islam. With the Alans I basically combined Rus', Kypchak, and Georgian units and called it a day. Not gonna win any prizes in the historical accuracy dept. but I think it turned out well visually at least!

These units tangjinfeng is making look great. I threw in some Teutonic Knights as a sort of easter egg to accompany Vytautas' invasion of the Golden Horde, but an expanded SOI could certainly use more in the Balkans and the Levant, and the mounted units in this thread are awesome. It looks like we'll also need Hungarian/Bulgar/Serbian rosters. I haven't looked into what's already available but maybe GregFred187 has?

Kinda off (geographical) topic, but does anyone know where I can find a working Chinese fire lance unit? I thought it would be fun to give to the Mongols.

 

[tangjinfeng]

Jaime I's long spearmen, who used spears with barbs

 

[tangjinfeng]

I utilized a bunch of bakuel's (really nice) units for the Mongol, pagan Turkic, Rus', and Alan factions in my version of the Sword of Islam. With the Alans I basically combined Rus', Kypchak, and Georgian units and called it a day. Not gonna win any prizes in the historical accuracy dept. but I think it turned out well visually at least!

These units tangjinfeng is making look great. I threw in some Teutonic Knights as a sort of easter egg to accompany Vytautas' invasion of the Golden Horde, but an expanded SOI could certainly use more in the Balkans and the Levant, and the mounted units in this thread are awesome. It looks like we'll also need Hungarian/Bulgar/Serbian rosters. I haven't looked into what's already available but maybe GregFred187 has?

Kinda off (geographical) topic, but does anyone know where I can find a working Chinese fire lance unit? I thought it would be fun to give to the Mongols.

I made the Teutonic and Templar Knights, but I didn't upload them.
I have a lot of models of the Chinese army, including the Song Dynasty, that I can try to find.

 

[tangjinfeng]

This is the Knights

 

[HNation]

Kinda off (geographical) topic, but does anyone know where I can find a working Chinese fire lance unit? I thought it would be fun to give to the Mongols.

There is one in DoC.

 

[tangjinfeng]

 

[tangjinfeng]

Castilian heavy spearmen, many paintings from the 12th and 13th centuries show that they usually wore chain mail with a chain hood, and they looked indistinguishable from the rest of Europe. But there are some exceptions, some people will wear "face-mask helmets" similar to the Normans, or some strangely shaped Iberian helmets, Bakuel's old Spain spearmen have a very national face-mask helmet, and I plan to do several similar variations.
Regarding his shield, this blue-and-white stripe appears several times in Las Cantigas de Santa Maria, and it is used by both Moorish and Christian armies, so I replaced a yellow-red stripe used by Christians.

 

[tangjinfeng]

Exploitation of the Buckle model

 

[tangjinfeng]

Castilian swordsman of the late 12th century, it is based on the image of a soldier in the Beartus manuscript of the Monastery of San Pedro Cardenia in Burgos.