PSP vs. GIMP

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Which is better? I'd like to start using the C n' P method and would like to know which image program is simple and easy to use for that.
 
PSP is the cheapest unless you want an open source program then use gimp.
PSP is only $79.99 very cheap when you look at Adobe PS $649.
 
PSP is the cheapest unless you want an open source program then use gimp.
PSP is only $79.99 very cheap when you look at Adobe PS $649.
:eek: $649! jeez...that must be like professional photo shop...or just a massive rip off:hmm:
 
Nope! Pro Adobe PS is about $1700... No kidding... The thing is that Adobe PS has a bunch of pretty much worthless extra features that one could easily do without, but are included so that they could ramp up the price.

PsP, for its price, is the best value of the three. It has most, if not all, of the NECESARRY functions that PhotoShop has, but at a fraction of the price.

At the same time, it is much easier to use than Gimp or PS.
 
Photoshop has limitless options, PSP has alot less cool stuff for cheaper, and GIMP is the only you one can use without dropping your jaw in horror at the price (free). Since you're new at this, stick with GIMP.
 
Nope! Pro Adobe PS is about $1700... No kidding... The thing is that Adobe PS has a bunch of pretty much worthless extra features that one could easily do without, but are included so that they could ramp up the price.

PsP, for its price, is the best value of the three. It has most, if not all, of the NECESARRY functions that PhotoShop has, but at a fraction of the price.

At the same time, it is much easier to use than Gimp or PS.

Actually Hikaro I believe you are referring to the suite the current version of PS is CS2 and alone it is the price I quoted, however there are package "deals" that include other adobe products along with Photoshop. I have the creative suite 2 that includes PS CS2, AI CS2, In Design CS2, Go Live CS2, and Acrobat pro 7.
While the casual user may find alot of PS features "worthless" it was designed to be used by professional graphic artists and anyone other than a casual user does not find them worthless.
As I stated earlier for the price the best bet is PSP or Gimp if you do not wish to pay for a raster "paint" program. Personally I find the pen tool in PSP to be clunky and not intuitive to use so I stick with the adobe line. It really depends on how you plan to use it.
 
I've been using GIMP for a couple of years now and love it. It takes a little while to get used to the interface, but once you get the hang of the basic functions and keyboard shortcuts it's very easy to use. Also, by it being free you don't have to risk paying lots of money for a program you may not like or continue to use.
 
Actually Hikaro I believe you are referring to the suite the current version of PS is CS2 and alone it is the price I quoted, however there are package "deals" that include other adobe products along with Photoshop. I have the creative suite 2 that includes PS CS2, AI CS2, In Design CS2, Go Live CS2, and Acrobat pro 7.
While the casual user may find alot of PS features "worthless" it was designed to be used by professional graphic artists and anyone other than a casual user does not find them worthless.
As I stated earlier for the price the best bet is PSP or Gimp if you do not wish to pay for a raster "paint" program. Personally I find the pen tool in PSP to be clunky and not intuitive to use so I stick with the adobe line. It really depends on how you plan to use it.

I actually have PS, (it came with a computer my friend sold me before he moved back to Japan) but never use it because 1) the UI is so Byzantine that trying to do even the simplest stuff is a pain in the rear end and 2) it runs slower than POSER (which is a royal memory hog, especially when you use Hi-poly models). Of course the encyclopedic Adobe PS manual might be in the pile of books and other documents that my friend gave me along with the computer, but why bother learning a program that, despite being supposedly in English, is more confusing than ancient Greek when PsP is so intuitive that I can easily use the Japanese version, even though I can't read all 2000 charachters that Japanese writing uses...

As I said, your average Joe would have no use for most of the features on PS, and if you were a professional, then you wouldn't have to worry about the pricetag because a) the graphics company you work for will have paid for it or b) you can write it off as business expenses on your tax form, so you end up getting the money back.
 
Actually, on that particular system, Poser does run SLIGHTLY slower, but not by much... Of course that system also is loaded with Norton Firewall and Ghost Surf, which might have something to do with it (when I finally get High-speed internet hooked up, that box will be my Internet Machine).

Still, it does run slower than Bryce 5, which is pathetic, seeing as PS is a 2-D paint prog, and Bryce 5 is a 3D modelling and animation prog...

Speaking of which, here's another reason to get PsP: It comes bundled with Animation Shop 5, which is great for making LH animations and for making unit previews (animated .gif files), something that PS and GIMP don't have. :smug:
 
Actually, on that particular system, Poser does run SLIGHTLY slower, but not by much... Of course that system also is loaded with Norton Firewall and Ghost Surf, which might have something to do with it (when I finally get High-speed internet hooked up, that box will be my Internet Machine).

Still, it does run slower than Bryce 5, which is pathetic, seeing as PS is a 2-D paint prog, and Bryce 5 is a 3D modelling and animation prog...

Speaking of which, here's another reason to get PsP: It comes bundled with Animation Shop 5, which is great for making LH animations and for making unit previews (animated .gif files), something that PS and GIMP don't have. :smug:
Actually PS comes with adobe image ready and you use that to make animations with, also optimizations for web graphics. I'm surprised you find PSP easier to use, maybe its just because I'm so used to PS.
 
Actually PS comes with adobe image ready and you use that to make animations with, also optimizations for web graphics. I'm surprised you find PSP easier to use, maybe its just because I'm so used to PS.

Well, I suppose Adobe Image would be good for that... If I could figure out how to access that function in PS....

And as to why I find PS so hard to use... Well, I've seen the manual for PS before (my brother went to Art Institute of Pittsburgh for CG), and there's a reason that the manual is about as thick as Webster's unabridged dictionary... If it were easy enough for your average Joe to pick up, then they wouldn't need a huge-arse manual like that.

I tried to play with PS a bit, but couldn't even figure out how to perform simple functions such as creating new layers or changing from 24-bit to 256 color and back.

Not only that, but PsP is compatible with a wider variety of graphics formats than PS (for instance, PsP can openany pallete files, obsolete formats and PS files, whereas PS can't open the old formats or half the pallete formats, including JASC .PAL fies or .PSP image files).
 
Well, I suppose Adobe Image would be good for that... If I could figure out how to access that function in PS....

:D It's called "Image Ready", and it's a separate program, that comes together with PS. ;) I personally found it very easy to use.

(when BadKharma said "comes with adobe image ready" he meant "comes with image ready, and you use that to make...")

Edit: Create new layer? Layer menu -> New -> Layer.
Change image to 256 colors? Image menu -> Image Mode
 
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