Question about barbarians

[TheLopez]

How does the vanilla game decide what units are valid for barbarians?
Can this list of valid units be changed? If so, where do we need to make these changes?

 

[woodelf]

I think it's in the Civilizations XML, but Kael would know better.

 

[sepamu92]

TheLopez, it is in CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml, towards the end. For every unit the barbarians can't use, there is set a "special unit" that replaces that unit, but it is set to "none". All other units are valid.

 

[surt]

Have a look at CIVILIZATION_BARBARIAN in Civ4CivilizationInfos.

It controls what units and buildings are not allowed for a given civ, as well as things like starting techs and unique units.

I used this in my mod to give the barbarians horse archers from the start, which makes early survival quite challenging. Roughly one in 3 civs goes down to barbs early on.

I'm going to guess that based on your modding history you actually knew this but didn't remember.

edit: sepamu92's post beat me to the punch.

 

[TheLopez]

Have a look at CIVILIZATION_BARBARIAN in Civ4CivilizationInfos.

It controls what units and buildings are not allowed for a given civ, as well as things like starting techs and unique units.

I used this in my mod to give the barbarians horse archers from the start, which makes early survival quite challenging. Roughly one in 3 civs goes down to barbs early on.

I understand that part, but what I am confused about (probably because I am doing Civ4 modding, writing a weekly status report for work, developing class and sequence diagrams for my project at work, etc. all at the same time) is why they are allowed to use warriors... wait a sec, the barbarian entry in the file is missing the:

<Unit>
	<UnitClassType>UNITCLASS_WARRIOR</UnitClassType>
	<UnitType>None</UnitType>
</Unit>

entry, . Ok, it now all makes sense...

I'm going to guess that based on your modding history you actually knew this but didn't remember.

edit: sepamu92's post beat me to the punch.

Yep, that is correct, then of course I have never had a reason to edit the Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml file

 

[Ultraworld]

Have a look at CIVILIZATION_BARBARIAN in Civ4CivilizationInfos.

It controls what units and buildings are not allowed for a given civ, as well as things like starting techs and unique units.

I used this in my mod to give the barbarians horse archers from the start, which makes early survival quite challenging. Roughly one in 3 civs goes down to barbs early on.

I'm going to guess that based on your modding history you actually knew this but didn't remember.

edit: sepamu92's post beat me to the punch.

I want to do this too. Thanks.

The previous post I kicked did not give me the full info.

 

[Ultraworld]

I understand that part, but what I am confused about (probably because I am doing Civ4 modding, writing a weekly status report for work, developing class and sequence diagrams for my project at work, etc. all at the same time) is why they are allowed to use warriors... wait a sec, the barbarian entry in the file is missing the:

<Unit>
	<UnitClassType>UNITCLASS_WARRIOR</UnitClassType>
	<UnitType>None</UnitType>
</Unit>

entry, . Ok, it now all makes sense...



Yep, that is correct, then of course I have never had a reason to edit the Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml file

Hmm, the horse archer is not there, however I have never seen a barbarian horse archer.

 

[strategyonly]

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