Greetings, I would be Rlgruber, the n00b who is about to ask people a few things, that are likely to irritate many people in their noobishness. So, let's get down to work and start making people annoyed at me for my stupid questions.
1) What exactly does denouncing do? I mean, I have been denounced several times, even by civs that were friends, and had no real effect on other relations, I have also been denounced, and had all kinds of effects sometimes weakening a friendship, sometimes even strengthening a friendship if my friend hates the denouncer....Why does the ai denounce and what exactly does it do?
2) Why does the explore button send scouts randomly walking through all the city states on the map, as if trying to make them all pissed at me? Sometimes it seems like the scout just randomly walks in circles around a city state, and I find their anger guage is half full for no reason to my knowledge, then a few turns later see my scount seems to have been randomly jobbing in circles in their city plaza. XD Why does auto explore make them purposefully go into city states you are not friends/allies with?
3) I am confused on a situation of my current game. I made a map because I was annoyed at the ai sometimes placing the iriquois in an area with like 2 thick bands of forest, and nothing else, nothing to really actualy connect cities, so I made my own map, where 1/3 of a continent is literally 100% forest and jungle, and put a "spawn random player" in which it always seems to spawn me for some reason, not other civs. (weird as the game calls ai civs "players" quite often.
anyway, I made the iriquois? nation and had a problem. I was weak, I had like 3 warriors and a spearman, as my entire military army, and a scout that got killed later....Very far from home...Japan was always talking to me, warning me about how weak my army was. He started neutral, but by the next turn he was hostile for no real reason, only 3 civs on 1 large continent...and I guess he warred off and on with france, who was randomly friends with me, yet refused to make such a declaration.
Anyway, france randomly declared war not too long after Japan's second, "Your army is pathetic, I just tihnk I should warn you, I could easily destroy you" speeches. And he had clearly planned for it, by sending 5-7 warriors (early game, I had gotten my second city not much earlier) there before declaring war. (a nice change from 4's stupid AI's who declare war and then never bothering to send more than 1 or 2 units all the way to your cities. ( I keep getting distracted ) Anyway....so my 2 warriors and 1 spearman managed to hold off the french army literally randomly walking around in my cities borders without ever really attacking, because anyone that got too close I did my best to deal with to the point no one ever did manage to attack it. But yeah, then japan, who I had worked up to neutral, declared war on me.
(Both of them said they were tired of pretending to be friends with me, so apparently ai civs can pretend to be friends, but not really. France was friendly with me before the war.)
It seems japan expected the 5-7 french warriors to own me, and he would take whatever was left. France kept making stupid demands for peace while I somehow managed to hold off and grow my army. After I killed off his last warrior and was making the first mohawk, I managed peace with no conditions for either of us. (Oddly enough he offered) I got peace from japan the same turn.
And now, both of them are friendly with me again, japan, who was neutral, then hostile, then neutral, then war, signed a pact of friendship like 2 turns after all the wars stopped. and france is friendly again.
in summation...
WTF?
France / Japan
Friends / Hostile
War / Neutral
War / War
Friendly / Friend (pact)
what the heck is going on here. Japan just seems to be like "Well...your cool now that your army doesn't suck anymore, and you aren't a weakling, so...pact of friendship?
I essentially replied "......sure....why not.... o.o"
Does japan always hate anyone weak, then like them once they prove themselves?
1) What exactly does denouncing do? I mean, I have been denounced several times, even by civs that were friends, and had no real effect on other relations, I have also been denounced, and had all kinds of effects sometimes weakening a friendship, sometimes even strengthening a friendship if my friend hates the denouncer....Why does the ai denounce and what exactly does it do?
2) Why does the explore button send scouts randomly walking through all the city states on the map, as if trying to make them all pissed at me? Sometimes it seems like the scout just randomly walks in circles around a city state, and I find their anger guage is half full for no reason to my knowledge, then a few turns later see my scount seems to have been randomly jobbing in circles in their city plaza. XD Why does auto explore make them purposefully go into city states you are not friends/allies with?
3) I am confused on a situation of my current game. I made a map because I was annoyed at the ai sometimes placing the iriquois in an area with like 2 thick bands of forest, and nothing else, nothing to really actualy connect cities, so I made my own map, where 1/3 of a continent is literally 100% forest and jungle, and put a "spawn random player" in which it always seems to spawn me for some reason, not other civs. (weird as the game calls ai civs "players" quite often.
anyway, I made the iriquois? nation and had a problem. I was weak, I had like 3 warriors and a spearman, as my entire military army, and a scout that got killed later....Very far from home...Japan was always talking to me, warning me about how weak my army was. He started neutral, but by the next turn he was hostile for no real reason, only 3 civs on 1 large continent...and I guess he warred off and on with france, who was randomly friends with me, yet refused to make such a declaration.
Anyway, france randomly declared war not too long after Japan's second, "Your army is pathetic, I just tihnk I should warn you, I could easily destroy you" speeches. And he had clearly planned for it, by sending 5-7 warriors (early game, I had gotten my second city not much earlier) there before declaring war. (a nice change from 4's stupid AI's who declare war and then never bothering to send more than 1 or 2 units all the way to your cities. ( I keep getting distracted ) Anyway....so my 2 warriors and 1 spearman managed to hold off the french army literally randomly walking around in my cities borders without ever really attacking, because anyone that got too close I did my best to deal with to the point no one ever did manage to attack it. But yeah, then japan, who I had worked up to neutral, declared war on me.
(Both of them said they were tired of pretending to be friends with me, so apparently ai civs can pretend to be friends, but not really. France was friendly with me before the war.)
It seems japan expected the 5-7 french warriors to own me, and he would take whatever was left. France kept making stupid demands for peace while I somehow managed to hold off and grow my army. After I killed off his last warrior and was making the first mohawk, I managed peace with no conditions for either of us. (Oddly enough he offered) I got peace from japan the same turn.
And now, both of them are friendly with me again, japan, who was neutral, then hostile, then neutral, then war, signed a pact of friendship like 2 turns after all the wars stopped. and france is friendly again.
in summation...
WTF?
France / Japan
Friends / Hostile
War / Neutral
War / War
Friendly / Friend (pact)
what the heck is going on here. Japan just seems to be like "Well...your cool now that your army doesn't suck anymore, and you aren't a weakling, so...pact of friendship?
I essentially replied "......sure....why not.... o.o"
Does japan always hate anyone weak, then like them once they prove themselves?