Quick Settler Production

I'm not sure how I can make it any clearer. I was just responding to the portion of your post that said "Also since you claim that it would make the AI's lag behind, can you please provide some evidence to back up your claim, sine you obviously haven't provided any at all?"

But anyway, I didn't say it was wrong at all. Its not my place to tell people how to play their game of civ. Read through my posts again, and read the portion of your post I was replying to. Hopefully it'll make sense.
 
The point of a handicap is not to "make things more efficient". The point of a handicap is for players of different skill to be able to play with each other on a relatively balanced playing field. That is it. Look up the word handicap.
My understanding of the purpose of handicap agrees with yours. Hopefully, the scoring system in the full game will automatically generate the appropriate handicaps based on actual demonstrated skill. That's how we do it in golf, and the handicap makes it more fun for everyone.

I find the single player demo is very easy to beat. I enjoy playing the MP demo more, even if there are no human players available, since the AI is more skilled than the Warlord AI in single player. But even the MP vs all AI players is still pretty easy to beat.

Maybe I will change my mind when I get the full game, but for now, I will not play handicap. I find the game progresses fast enough for my tastes without decreasing the competition.

But, certainly everyone should be allowed to enjoy the game as they see fit. I'm sure there will be some that want to play the lower difficulty, with handicaps for everyone except the AI players.
 
Boss Nasti, you are 110% in the wrong here.

First, let's look at the definition of a handicap as it applies to something of a competitive form. Like sports, or a video game.
"a race or other contest in which certain disadvantages or advantages of weight, distance, time, etc., are placed upon competitors to equalize their chances of winning."
In horse races that are handicaps, the worst horses carry significantly less weight than the best horses to increase their chances of competing, thus making it more exciting for bettors and spectators. Similarly, the real purpose of a handicap in this game is to allow players of differing skill levels to have a fairly competitive round. The purpose is not to"speed up the game." If that was the case they would have given you multiple speed seetings, as in Civ 4, where everyone can be on a quicker, but equal playing field that has the amount of turns balanced to how fast things happen. By giving yourself the largest handicap possible in the game, or any handicap at all for that matter, you are admitting that you are the worst horse in the race, unable to compete on fair terms with anyone actually playing the game properly. Your 'accomplishments' are negated, and possibly of less worth than accomplishments on SP Chieftain.

Your strategy is obviosly deluded. Vale has provided the numbers to back this up. And playing with your handicap, with your supposed better strategy, you should get done 40% faster, plus however much better you claim your strat to be. 500 AD to 850 AD is not close to that.

Your very poor grammar and spelling also show us to take little stock in your comments. Nobody needs to have perfectly mistake free posts, I don't, and I don't expect people to consult a dictionary and grammar textbook on any questionable points. However, if you cannot correctly spell basic words, form complete sentences, and use proper punctuation, I can already tell your posts aren't worth reading. On top of that, your needless use of words like "bra," "pimp," "dude," and other things you do trying to make yourself sound like a gangster are completely out of place.

I don't claim to be a great Civ player. I'm just average, I come here to listen to good, sound advice and strats from guys like Vale, and to provide help with simple things where I can.

Don't try to argue with Vale on the strategy that HE CAME UP WITH, he knows what he's talking about, and is obviously a far better poster and far more experienced Civ player than you.

Don't claim that Multiplayer is the only important part of this game. Its cool, but the Civ series always has been and always will be based on Single Player. There's a reason the truly elite spend their time on things like GOTW, because SP is how Civ was originally meant to be played.

These boards have always been really good, not too many guys like you who claim to know what they're talking about, but use handicaps in cheap ways and claim that they're totally fair, and cannot seem to create a readable post.
 
Off what I can make out, Boss Nasti's posts are pretty much not worth reading. He always thinks he is right, and everyone elses opinion is worthless to him. I was posting on a thread (can't remember which one) and all he would say is that SP is useless, and this game should only be played as MP. He would not take my opinion that people can play it how they like, he was only interested in imprting his own opinion on me, and not listening to anyone elses.
 
btw, with the handicap, you change the game in more ways than just speeding it up. In addition to the AI falling behind, new techs will be researched faster (due to city growth being sped up). This means that troop movement is slowed down compared to building up military (new military techs plus faster build times), and domination gets A LOT harder.
 
Bottom line what you accomplish on Romans at 40% no civ can accomplish.
1. Starts with Republic
2. Half price roads

If you have half a brain you would know that these advantages are immensly powerful. If you can figure it out Romans can make a feeding strat totally safe and im talking about MP.

When I get the game tomorrow im using the Egyptians first, Aztecs 2nd, Arabs 3rd.
 
Sheesh, and I thought this was going to be my 'relaxing' time with my consoles...Too much COD4 gets me all worked up, so I figured I'd chill with this neat little strategy game, that reminded me of Risk and AAA...

THEN, I read all this mess about math, and producing food, and pop, and settlers, I'm sort of afraid to plug this bad boy into my PS3 now...:crazyeye:

Here's to hoping that Civopedia really works!

Cheers,

Mark
 
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