PritomD
Prince
Just wondering, why do people raze cities? What are the advantages of that over starving out the current nationality or making slaves of them?>
Rage of Raze?
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MadScot
Brandy's back!
The city may be in a bad location, and you may wish to have a city one tile over. Can't have two next to each other, so....
Also, cities with foreigners in have a nasty habit of rejoining their own civ by culture flipping. Razed cities don't do that, nor does you virgin replacement city with only your own people in it (unless the borders are compressed)
edit: and you cannot starve the last foreigner - starving the city reduces the flip chance but does not eliminate it
Razed cities also yield some foreign workers (slaves) depending on their size.
You may wish to ensure the AI can't capture it back (scorched earth policy)
You may be trying to avoid the domination victory, and cannot afford to add any more land to your civ without triggering that victory.
Also, cities with foreigners in have a nasty habit of rejoining their own civ by culture flipping. Razed cities don't do that, nor does you virgin replacement city with only your own people in it (unless the borders are compressed)
edit: and you cannot starve the last foreigner - starving the city reduces the flip chance but does not eliminate it
Razed cities also yield some foreign workers (slaves) depending on their size.
You may wish to ensure the AI can't capture it back (scorched earth policy)
You may be trying to avoid the domination victory, and cannot afford to add any more land to your civ without triggering that victory.
I usually raze a lot simply because my armies usually consists of mass quantities of offensive units, so I find it hard to garrison the newly captured cities. Besides, I won't even consider bothering with them if I think they are too far away from my Captial/FP, simply because the corruption would make them useless. When I'm riding forth with dozens of Cavalry, I don't want to pause to defend the cities while my Riflemen catch up, so I just raze 'em.
trumpeteer
Player of Trumpet
I LOVE RAZING CITIES!!! Especially those size-1 ones that have never had a border expansion!!!
MWA-HA-HA-HA!!!
OK, so I don't raze cities. Usually, if I raze 'em, the borders of nearby cities will overtake them, and I can't build my own city there anyway. I starve 'em down, by putting all the citizens on Tax Collectors, and then try to make them grow to size 3 at least.
MWA-HA-HA-HA!!!OK, so I don't raze cities. Usually, if I raze 'em, the borders of nearby cities will overtake them, and I can't build my own city there anyway. I starve 'em down, by putting all the citizens on Tax Collectors, and then try to make them grow to size 3 at least.
SinisterDeath
Pure Quality
I never raze, unless ABSOLUTLEY necessary! I prefer to capture, and then rush build a temple. Sometimes the one square border around the newly captured city allows me to place my artillery there and hit the next targeted city on the same turn!
Dynamic Cow
Moo
the only city i raze is the capitol my current enemy. just for good measure.
Dynamic Cow
Moo
i know. but i raze them anyway, since they tend to culture-flip back to my enemy due to the massive culture it has produced.
Mr Black
Los Zetas
Hi!
I NEVER raze, for that is not how gentlemen behave.
I really hate it when the AI razes my city of 2 million people. Is this realistic???
How is it possible to completely raze a city of 2 million???
I NEVER raze, for that is not how gentlemen behave.
I really hate it when the AI razes my city of 2 million people. Is this realistic???
How is it possible to completely raze a city of 2 million???
i dont raze because i like to collect as many cities as possible and increase my territory. if i destroy the city, another civ, usually a third party not involved in the war, will come along with a settler and build a city there.
MacPhisto
Chieftain
I enjoy razing cities for the simple reason resistance and culture-flipping is annoying to deal with.
Also, the worth of the city is so low since I have so many or they are too far away.
Usually I go to war to simply damage my enemies. I just finished a war with the Russians (that ended in conquest) and gutted their entire territory. Now the Chinese, Japanese and Romans are scrambling to take the territory (I don't really need it) and hopefully, they will get involved in some of their own conflicts (the continent looks like a tie-dye now!).
One thing I like doing is conquering an entire civ, haul back massive quantities of foreign workers, and then once I discover sanitation beefing up my main cities populations.
Just be sure to wipe out the civ so they don't ever revolt.
Also, the worth of the city is so low since I have so many or they are too far away.
Usually I go to war to simply damage my enemies. I just finished a war with the Russians (that ended in conquest) and gutted their entire territory. Now the Chinese, Japanese and Romans are scrambling to take the territory (I don't really need it) and hopefully, they will get involved in some of their own conflicts (the continent looks like a tie-dye now!).
One thing I like doing is conquering an entire civ, haul back massive quantities of foreign workers, and then once I discover sanitation beefing up my main cities populations.
Just be sure to wipe out the civ so they don't ever revolt.
Norlamand
Procrastinator Rex
I usually don't raze because of the rep hit. It makes trade with non-combatant AI's more difficult. I can see the use in liquidating a large city that will suck up a lot of your troops to quell when you are on an offensive roll. In that case it is easier to raze the city and plop one of your own settlers in the nicely improved terrain.
That is one of my favorite tactics in higher level games when I am relatively weak. I let the AI's battle it out and (using ROP) I plop my settlers in the lands opened up. I usually can rush the culture and sometimes get a city or two to flip to me. In the end I gain land and power without going to war. This has served me well when I am the weak human in the AI's deity world (them with tanks and me with knights......).
That is one of my favorite tactics in higher level games when I am relatively weak. I let the AI's battle it out and (using ROP) I plop my settlers in the lands opened up. I usually can rush the culture and sometimes get a city or two to flip to me. In the end I gain land and power without going to war. This has served me well when I am the weak human in the AI's deity world (them with tanks and me with knights......).
there is a way to keep an ai city and not have any foreign workers in it:
when in despotism, when you can hurry production with forced labour, you starve the city to one citizin and then allow it to grow a bit (own citizins), then if you build something by forced labour, sometimes the foreign worker dissapears and your own stays!
when in despotism, when you can hurry production with forced labour, you starve the city to one citizin and then allow it to grow a bit (own citizins), then if you build something by forced labour, sometimes the foreign worker dissapears and your own stays!
Mr Black
Los Zetas
Hi!
This is similar to the cities, losing pop. points due to bombing. Very good and very realistic.
But it's not the same as troops, entering a city of millions and then razing. How do ground troops raze a metropolis? Do they set detonation charges on every single building, even hi-rises???
MacPhisto
Chieftain
Shhhhh...
You're asking some very dangerious questions in regards to the nature of Civ Mr. Black...
If scary men :soldier: :soldier: :soldier: come to take you away, don't say we didn't warn you!!
Some mysteries are better left unsolved!
There was a German city near the border that constantly shifted hands in many wars.
Finally I just razed it to the ground, sent the workers to my capitol and sold them all as slave to other civilizations
Coincidentally this event started a war of destruction between me and the Germans
and when the game ended I still hadnt conquered them
But five cities (3 of mine and 2 German) had been destroyed
Finally I just razed it to the ground, sent the workers to my capitol and sold them all as slave to other civilizations
Coincidentally this event started a war of destruction between me and the Germans
and when the game ended I still hadnt conquered them
But five cities (3 of mine and 2 German) had been destroyed
