Rat 06 - AWDG 20k

[Obormot]

I agree with Greebley, maybe we should rush a FP even before the Heroic Epic. It is very important.

 

[LKendter]

I agree with Greebley, maybe we should rush a FP even before the Heroic Epic. It is very important.

lurker's comment: I wouldn't even try a 20K with a second ring city. I reject several starts for just that reason.

Since you have started, the number #1 rush goal will need to be FP before you even get your first army. Higher corruption with shield weak is very bad for a 20K attempt.

 

[MeteorPunch]

We can move the lux slider down a notch.

 

[ThERat]

we should try and expand further so we get the FP faster. Connecting the 3rd town and settling another spot is top priority. I would not get a granary first, but a rax. This is AW not a normal game.

As long as we face no swords, it should be still fine to defend.

 

[barbslinger]

I'm thinking this dotmap to make the corruption in 20K negligible.

 

[ThERat]

I would shift the eastern spot one tile NE so that it is distance 3 from the 20k city. With AW we should try and maintain that as far as possible with this set up

 

[MeteorPunch]

The granary first would be better for our longterm survival. As it is, the settler completes in 1 turn. If we build the granary first, the settler completes in 9 turns, with a higher population in babylon and the granary.

I agree with moving NE, then it can work a bg.

 

[barbslinger]

I would shift the eastern spot one tile NE so that it is distance 3 from the 20k city. With AW we should try and maintain that as far as possible with this set up

I considered that and felt that the 20K would NEED all the tiles it could possibly want. With it's placement it gets the sugar and the western water. It can mine the 2 mountains with the floodplains available. It is also a back line city so should only get AI landings, which are poor.

 

[barbslinger]

I agree with moving NE, then it can work a bg.

I would think the 20K would always get the BG.

 

[MeteorPunch]

I would think the 20K would always get the BG.

The Bowman is standing on it...in Babylons territory.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Also Sir Bugsy didn't seem to take into account the fact that extra food translates into shields. You will have more than 16 shields if you mine the plains and probably also the desert. If the plains and wheat is mined you get 2 more shields I think, so 18 once you reach monarchy. Work 2 desert squares and count the center square and/or plant some forests and I suspect you can go to 20 shields with starvation - probably 17-18 without.

Sorry gents. Not a very good analysis on my part.

 

[barbslinger]

I'm not going to be able to play until tomorrow night if someone wants to swap.

 

[ThERat]

ok, barbslinger, I take it then

 

[ThERat]

save

Pre-Turn
change Ashur to walls, lower lux by 10% and increase science by 20%

IT defeat a warrior on defense and Maya finishes Pyramids

1.1225BC
deceide to go for barbslingers suggested town since we need more tiels for the 20k town
and the new town can work the sugar

IT another warrior suicides and the first archer appears
Mongols start Oracle

2. 1200BC
zzzz

IT Japan finishes Oracle

3. 1175BC
found Ellipi, that should be turned into a worker factory later on

IT foolish archer decided to attack warrior on mountain, redlines it but dies
we get the temple

4. 1150BC
reduce lux to 20% and writing is ready in 12
set 20k town to palace as GL prebuild

IT warrior goes on to pillage a capital, need to take him out, but if we use our UU we will get the GA

5. 1125BC
no choice, need to attack

6. 1100BC
zzz

7. 1075BC
our 20k town now makes 12 shields net

IT Ashur finishes walls, rax next

8. 1050BC
zzzz

9. 1025BC
take out Mongol warrior

IT Maya finish ToA, Egypt the Hanging Gardens

10. 1050AD
take out archer lose a warrior

now time to make decisions
we will get writing in 2, then we could go for another tech before literature
palace needs another 20 turns, we could go for
maths (9 turns)
IW (7 turns)
wheel (5 turns)

 

[ThERat]

TheRat - played
SirBugsy - up, if you can play today
MeteorPunch -
Obormot
barbslinger - swapped with Rat

 

[MeteorPunch]

either math or iron workin' so...it's a toss up. flip a coin.

It's nice that bowmen are 2.2.1 + bombard, so need we even build spears?

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I'm up in Handy's game. I can get it tomorrow.

Let's go for IW. A couple of swords would help.

 

[ThERat]

ok, let barbslinger play first then

on a second thought, 20k will grow and the palace pre-build will drop, maybe we better get the GL first, meaning we go for literature. Once we get writing, we should check the reseach time needed for literature. We might not be able to insert another tech.

And yes, we should build our UU not spears due to the defensive bombard, very good.

 

[Obormot]

Maybe we can squeese philosophy and MoM before TGL? 2 wonders in the AA is too little and we can afford to build MoM before TGL.

 

[barbslinger]

Maybe we can squeese philosophy and MoM before TGL? 2 wonders in the AA is too little and we can afford to build MoM before TGL.

I'm thinking at DG we better get the GL while the getting is good or we may miss out on it. Looks like Ashur will be all military, Babylon Settlers - workers, Ellipi, a rax and then military. IW up next. Any comments welcome. I will play tonight.