ThERat
Deity
that's fine
Rat-32 3BC AW as Persia
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el_filet
Prince
i got it
will probably set up elephantium for attack. hope we can afford to pay for the 6 archers or so necessary to kill the expected two NM.
will probably set up elephantium for attack. hope we can afford to pay for the 6 archers or so necessary to kill the expected two NM.
I think we should be able to, though it might slow science.
el_filet
Prince
Turn 3:
pasargaede grows, take arbela off wealth and up lux
WC still next turn
TheRat carefully sent back our spear and i overlook the green corner in the woods
Turn 4:
WC->wheel (in 26@0 gpt)
set science to minimum, 50 turns
pasar: archer->archer
aztecs on f4, declare.
Turn 5:
another green boarder
utica has grown
Turn 6:
move spear to pillage and get him exposed
IBT:
lose the spear
Turn 7:
leave both cities on archers
Turn 8:
-
IBT:
carthagian units move toward arbela
Turn 9:
pasargadae: archer->archer
our income is now 0 gpt with 14g left. maybe i should have disposed the warror, but want some mp left.
Turn 10:
kill the two archers, lose 2 HP each time
utica is size 1 again
we run a deficit of 1gpt after upping lux to 30%
Notes:
2 archers injured, 2 ready in arbela and 2 due next turn (new tile was set to forest. with 10 in already we can leave it for another turn)
moving the worker up to build a road after our stack seems like a mistake now
met the aztecs, our economy is in horrible shape and the kill ratio is 2-1. i think going to bed early would have been the better choice tonight.
pasargaede grows, take arbela off wealth and up lux
WC still next turn
TheRat carefully sent back our spear and i overlook the green corner in the woods
Turn 4:
WC->wheel (in 26@0 gpt)
set science to minimum, 50 turns
pasar: archer->archer
aztecs on f4, declare.
Turn 5:
another green boarder
utica has grown
Turn 6:
move spear to pillage and get him exposed
IBT:
lose the spear
Turn 7:
leave both cities on archers
Turn 8:
-
IBT:
carthagian units move toward arbela
Turn 9:
pasargadae: archer->archer
our income is now 0 gpt with 14g left. maybe i should have disposed the warror, but want some mp left.
Turn 10:
kill the two archers, lose 2 HP each time
utica is size 1 again
we run a deficit of 1gpt after upping lux to 30%
Notes:
2 archers injured, 2 ready in arbela and 2 due next turn (new tile was set to forest. with 10 in already we can leave it for another turn)
moving the worker up to build a road after our stack seems like a mistake now
met the aztecs, our economy is in horrible shape and the kill ratio is 2-1. i think going to bed early would have been the better choice tonight.
ThERat
Deity
The early pop rushes by the AI are maddening and might be too much at higher levels. On top of that, we have crappy unis versus a monster UU...not easy
The Roster
Greebley
Mathias
TheOverseer
ThERat
el_filet
Elephantinum - up
The Roster
Greebley
Mathias
TheOverseer
ThERat
el_filet
Elephantinum - up
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
I got it, playing now.
TheOverseer714
Overseer
Persia without Iron drops to a middle-tier civ. This may be nearly impossible to extremely difficult to win with the variant we are doing. If we do Persia again, we need verified Iron within range. I'm not ready to concede, but if we do, whether its Persia or anyone else, we need to be able to build the UU.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
IT:
Carthaginian archer comes out of the fog.
Pasargadae: Archers
Arbela: Archers
Turn 1 (1450 BC):
Pull back our archers.
IT:
We get the low treasury warning.
Turn 2 (1425 BC):
Kill the Carthage archer.
Send three Archers and two Spears at Utica.
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 3 (1400 BC):
Move towards Utica.
IT:
Arbela: Archers
Turn 4 (1375 BC):
Archer vs. Carthage archer: we win, 1/4.
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 1/4 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 2/3 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 2/4 Numidian
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 5 (1350 BC):
Move troops.
IT:
Zzz...
Turn 6 (1325 BC):
Archer vs. Numidian: 3/4 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: 4/5 Archer!
Archer vs. 3/4 Numidian: 3/5 Numidian
Feeling desperate, I attack with both Spears and lose them. 1/5 Numidian
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Arbela: Archers
Turn 7 (1300 BC):
4/5 Archer vs. 3/5 Numidian: 4/5 Archer, we destroy Utica and gain 1 gold and 2 slaves!
IT:
Zzz...
Turn 8 (1275 BC):
Zzz...
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 9 (1250 BC):
Change Arbela to Spear.
IT:
Carthage Numidian merc comes out of the fog and kills one of our Archers.
Aztec archer suicides vs. our spear.
Arbela: Spear->Spear
Turn 10 (1225 BC):
Lose two Archers killing that Numidian merc
Disband two Warriors in Arblea to free up some gpt and speed the production of the current Spear (the town is at 8spt, so this drops production from 3 turns to 2).
Hmm, I'm on Turn 71 somehow
Carthaginian archer comes out of the fog.
Pasargadae: Archers
Arbela: Archers
Turn 1 (1450 BC):
Pull back our archers.
IT:
We get the low treasury warning.
Turn 2 (1425 BC):
Kill the Carthage archer.
Send three Archers and two Spears at Utica.
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 3 (1400 BC):
Move towards Utica.
IT:
Arbela: Archers
Turn 4 (1375 BC):
Archer vs. Carthage archer: we win, 1/4.
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 1/4 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 2/3 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: We lose, 2/4 Numidian
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 5 (1350 BC):
Move troops.
IT:
Zzz...
Turn 6 (1325 BC):
Archer vs. Numidian: 3/4 Numidian
Archer vs. Numidian: 4/5 Archer!
Archer vs. 3/4 Numidian: 3/5 Numidian
Feeling desperate, I attack with both Spears and lose them. 1/5 Numidian
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Arbela: Archers
Turn 7 (1300 BC):
4/5 Archer vs. 3/5 Numidian: 4/5 Archer, we destroy Utica and gain 1 gold and 2 slaves!
IT:
Zzz...
Turn 8 (1275 BC):
Zzz...
IT:
Pasargadae: Archers
Turn 9 (1250 BC):
Change Arbela to Spear.
IT:
Carthage Numidian merc comes out of the fog and kills one of our Archers.
Aztec archer suicides vs. our spear.
Arbela: Spear->Spear
Turn 10 (1225 BC):
Lose two Archers killing that Numidian merc
Disband two Warriors in Arblea to free up some gpt and speed the production of the current Spear (the town is at 8spt, so this drops production from 3 turns to 2).
Hmm, I'm on Turn 71 somehow
ThERat
Deity
maybe going after the Aztecs should be better as they have no strong UU?
Greebley is up, this game might not be feasible again without iron...we'll see
Greebley is up, this game might not be feasible again without iron...we'll see
got it. I was thinking we may want to use our third town?
el_filet
Prince
with utica gone i think we should found our 3rd city. as possible site i see ex-utica, river+coast near furs or on river between cattle and wheat, which would be my favourite choice unless you expect to conquer the aztec city nearby. from past experience it probably won't grow/expand in a decent timeframe.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
I definitely think our third town should be on the river. I'm not sure we'll have any luck defending it, though.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
Edit: Double-post
I played my turns.
I mostly worked on getting the settler and settling our 3rd city. I felt it vital.
Killed about 8 enemy units and lost an Archer or two. For the Num Merc, I let him attack us since the odds were much better (i.e. ignore them unless they are in cities or going to pillage something important the AI often treats them as offensive units it seems).
Note that the spot wasn't perfect, but it was as good as we could defend. We also may get a river advantage for many attacks.
I think the next player should change production in the new city to walls to get them before barracks.
Also I would prioritize getting water back to our cities. Cut the forest and start the water back.
I think we need more workers to get irrigation.
I mostly worked on getting the settler and settling our 3rd city. I felt it vital.
Killed about 8 enemy units and lost an Archer or two. For the Num Merc, I let him attack us since the odds were much better (i.e. ignore them unless they are in cities or going to pillage something important the AI often treats them as offensive units it seems).
Note that the spot wasn't perfect, but it was as good as we could defend. We also may get a river advantage for many attacks.
I think the next player should change production in the new city to walls to get them before barracks.
Also I would prioritize getting water back to our cities. Cut the forest and start the water back.
I think we need more workers to get irrigation.
ThERat
Deity
Looking better with a third city, let's get the irrigation back
The Roster
Greebley
Mathias - up
TheOverseer
ThERat
el_filet
Elephantinum
Greebley, here is no save attached
The Roster
Greebley
Mathias - up
TheOverseer
ThERat
el_filet
Elephantinum
Greebley, here is no save attached
Ok this time I checked carefully and there was a save before I posted. Something weird is going on with this.
I will post a save tonight.
I will post a save tonight.
Here is the save
1000 BC (0)
Kill 3 archers (2 Aztec, 1 Carth), promoting one of our own
Change Antioch production to Walls
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
975 BC (1)
4/4 Archer dies attacking 5/5 Aztec archer
Second archer kills 4/5 Aztec archer
Third kills fortified Aztec archer
Workers: Irrigate cattle/chop fur forest
IT: Arbela Archer >> Worker
950 BC (2)
Troop movement and healing
IT: N.Merc pillages road on forest
Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
925 BC (3)
More troop movement
IT: Elite Archer defeats Aztec archer, retreats jag (-3 hp)
Forest harvested (Antioch)
Arbela Worker >> Archer
900 BC (4)
Workers begin irrig
IT: N.Merc approaches undefended colony
Elite (2/5) archer defeats Aztec reg archer (-1 hp)
Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
875 BC (5)
Archer kills N.Merc (-2 hp)
Another kills an archer near Teotihuacan (size 4)
More archers heading to Teotihuacan
850 BC (6)
Archer kills spear in Teo (-2 hp)
Second archer dies to and promotes spear in Teotihuacan
MM Pasargadae for growth this turn
Sci & Lux to 10%
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Worker
Arbela Archer >> Archer
Antioch Walls >> Barracks
825 BC (7)
Troop movement
IT: Forest harvested (Arbela)
Aztec Galley approaches
Pasargadae Worker >> Archer
800 BC (8)
Archers kill jag, archer
IT: Arbela Archer >> Archer
775 BC (9)
Archer dies to vet spear in Teo (now 2/5, reg spear to defend)
Archers kill jag
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
Aztecs complete Pyramids in Tenochtitlan
India completes Oracle in Delhi
750 BC (10)
Workers continue irrigation
Most units have not moved
Aztec galley has not unloaded (possibly settler pair)
Teotihuacan is defended by at least two spearmen, one of which is Elite
13 Kills, 3 Casualties
Carthage is apparently occupied, as I saw none of their units other than the two in Greebley's screenshot.
Current objective: Capture Teotihuacan.
Kill 3 archers (2 Aztec, 1 Carth), promoting one of our own
Change Antioch production to Walls
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
975 BC (1)
4/4 Archer dies attacking 5/5 Aztec archer
Second archer kills 4/5 Aztec archer
Third kills fortified Aztec archer
Workers: Irrigate cattle/chop fur forest
IT: Arbela Archer >> Worker
950 BC (2)
Troop movement and healing
IT: N.Merc pillages road on forest
Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
925 BC (3)
More troop movement
IT: Elite Archer defeats Aztec archer, retreats jag (-3 hp)
Forest harvested (Antioch)
Arbela Worker >> Archer
900 BC (4)
Workers begin irrig
IT: N.Merc approaches undefended colony
Elite (2/5) archer defeats Aztec reg archer (-1 hp)
Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
875 BC (5)
Archer kills N.Merc (-2 hp)
Another kills an archer near Teotihuacan (size 4)
More archers heading to Teotihuacan
850 BC (6)
Archer kills spear in Teo (-2 hp)
Second archer dies to and promotes spear in Teotihuacan
MM Pasargadae for growth this turn
Sci & Lux to 10%
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Worker
Arbela Archer >> Archer
Antioch Walls >> Barracks
825 BC (7)
Troop movement
IT: Forest harvested (Arbela)
Aztec Galley approaches
Pasargadae Worker >> Archer
800 BC (8)
Archers kill jag, archer
IT: Arbela Archer >> Archer
775 BC (9)
Archer dies to vet spear in Teo (now 2/5, reg spear to defend)
Archers kill jag
IT: Pasargadae Archer >> Archer
Aztecs complete Pyramids in Tenochtitlan
India completes Oracle in Delhi
750 BC (10)
Workers continue irrigation
Most units have not moved
Aztec galley has not unloaded (possibly settler pair)
Teotihuacan is defended by at least two spearmen, one of which is Elite
13 Kills, 3 Casualties
Carthage is apparently occupied, as I saw none of their units other than the two in Greebley's screenshot.
Current objective: Capture Teotihuacan.
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Deity
things are starting to look better, great work, let's take that pop 4 city 
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el_filet
Elephantinum
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