Rat26 - Random AWE

[Elephantium]

I've been trying to avoid using "cover" armies for killing random units; getting a bad RNG string and losing 8-10 hp against a Rifle would leave a stack exposed.

As for the city on the west of the new continent, I'd be happier if we had two more Infantry to guard it. Just call me Tusker McClellan

Edit: Crosspost with Overseer. I feel like I was mostly setting the stage for rapid conquest during the next turnset - I only razed a few cities.

I also added a picture to my turnlog post.

 

[ThERat]

nice progress, soon we should be able to steamroll the AI

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El Filet
ThERat
TheOverseer714
Greebley
Elephantium
Elear - up

 

[Greebley]

Short rushing - I didn't think of that one. Not a bad idea actually.

For killing the Rifle, it is on one of two squares that have a unique Lux. If we lost 10 hp, we could cover with one of the injured Armies in the main town -which wouldn't then heal, but the odds of losing so many hp is very small and we save the lux square. We are not talking of any old square here....

 

[Elephantium]

Precisely - one of two squares. I'm not worried about losing one of the two lux squares. Still, you're right; better to lose none than to let it drop to one source hooked up.

 

[ThERat]

Roster
El Filet - take it if you are able to play
ThERat
TheOverseer714
Greebley
Elephantium
Elear - no got it, skipped?

 

[Elear]

Unless el_filet has it, I've got it now. Christmas Eve and Christmas were hectic, and I wasn't able to even really get on these forums.

 

[ThERat]

go ahead Elear

 

[Elear]

Wonderful

 

[Elear]

BTW, I'm playing this, but inching along. It's taking quite awhile with MM, bombarding stacks, attacking them, etc.

edit: Will finish on Sunday, doubt I'll have time tommorow. Think we are going to get an excellent move on Babylon here. Been trying to balance Bombers with some more Infantry builds to help with defense versus cavalry. I initially thought about building more cavalry of our own, but tanks are imminent, much better, and also bombers are just great. I am saving armies now for tanks. Some 4 tank armies on that main enemy continent would go a long way during the next turn sets, although I doubt I will get more than 1 or 2 of those during my set.

 

[Greebley]

Don't feel you need to play a full 10 turns. 5 is fine during these late turns.

 

[ThERat]

Elear, you have stalled the game now for quite a while. Sunday has passed and no update is posted.

I take this as a skip unless you post within the next 24 hours. Please do consider the rest of the team, who want to see some progress in a SG. It is usually the custom to go for 24/48. You can always ask for a skip. Thanks

 

[Elear]

Pre-turn: Switch science to 0 percent.

IT: Lots of Egyptians move in near England's remnant. Lose a destroyer to one of theirs. (0-1)

1555 AD (1): Get Mass Production. Start on Motorized Transportation @ 80 percent. A decent deficit, but will get in 4 turns.

Rat26 Bomber -> Infantry
IronMine Bomber -> Infantry
Cadesh Bomber -> Infantry

Sink an English boat (1-1).

Kill several English rifles and guerillas (using bombardment), and a whole batallion of Egypt cavalry plus one rifleman (using bombardment), losing one elite cavalry in the process and promoting one veteran to elite. (13-2) Move armies around.

Various boat moves. Sink an Egyptian boat. (14-2)

Bomb an Egyptian rifle to death. (15-2)

Form another Cavalry army.

IT: Mongol Frigate dies attacking one of ours. (16-2) Another frigate proceeds to destroy ours. (16-3) Lose an infantry to an enemy cavalry (16-4). Many Egyptian enemy troops on the move. Lose a bunch of slave workers in an effort to draw out remaining English troops to speed up conquest.

1560 AD (2):

Yamama Settler -> Settler.
Gandasetaigon Infantry -> Infantry.
Solve unrest in New Tarsus.

Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Canterbury. (17-4)
Bombard Canterbury to redline.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Canterbury. (18-4)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Canterbury. (19-4)
Hittites capture the English city of Canterbury (and all the slave workers back). Also get 1807 gold. Start production on infantry.
Bombard London.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at London. (20-4)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (21-4)
Infantry Army beats rRifle at Ellipi. (22-4)
Bombard Ellipi and destroy a marketplace.
Infantry Army beats rRifle at Ellipi. (23-4)
Hittites capture the Babylonian city of Ellipi. Start production on settler.
Bombard Babylon.
Bombard loose troops.
Cavalry Army beats rGuerilla. (24-4)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle. (25-4)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle. (26-4)
eCavalry loses to vCavalry. (26-5)
eCavalry beats vRifle. (27-5)
eCavalry beats rRifle. (28-5)
eCavalry beats vLongbow. (29-5) Get a GL.
GL made into Army at Malatya.
vCavalry loses to vRifle at Babylon. (29-6)
vCavalry retreats to eRifle at Babylon.
vCavalry loses to rRifle at Babylon. (29-7)
vCavalry beats vRifle at Babylon. (30-7)
vCavalry beats vRifle at Babylon. (30-7)
vCavalry beats vRifle at Babylon. (30-7)
vCavalry beats vRifle at Babylon. (30-7)
vCavalry beats vRifle at Babylon. (30-7)
vCavalry retreats to eRifle at Babylon.
vCavalry loses to eRifle at Babylon. (30-8)
Cavalry Army beats eRifle at Babylon. (31-8)
Cavalry Army beats vLongbow at Babylon. (32-8)
Hittites capture the Babylonian city of Babylon (along with Newton's). Start production on artillery.
Employ coastal bombardment on Babylon.
rDestroyer beats vPrivateer. (33-8)
eDestroyer beats vFrigate. (34-8)
vDestroyer beats vFrigate. (35-8)
vDestroyer beats vFrigate. It promotes. (36-8)
Cavalry Army beats vGuerllia. (37-8)
Cavalry Army beats vCavalry. (38-8)
Cavalry Army beats vCavalry. (39-8)
Cavalry Army beats vCavalry. (40-8)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (41-8)
Bombard an Egyptian cavalry to death. (42-8)
vInfantry beats vCavalry. (43-8)
Form another Cavalry army.
vInfantry beats vLongbow. (44-8)
Karatepe Walls -> Artillery.

IT: They coastal bombard a few cities and move some troops, but no problems at all in the interturn. Quell 5 of 6 resisters at Babylon. Quell 1 of 2resisters at Ellipi.

1565 AD (3):

Mecca Cavalry -> Cavalry.
GLib Infantry -> Infantry.
Horsietown Infantry -> Bomber.
Naijan Army -> Army.
Negras Bomber -> Bomber.
Hattusha Bomber -> Bomber.
Incense Bomber -> Bomber.
Ankuwa Bomber -> Bomber.
Adana Bomber -> Bomber.
Mansura Bomber -> Bomber.
Hubishna Bomber -> Bomber.
Omaha Beach Aquaduct -> Destroyer.
Quell riot in More Horses.

Bombard Ashur.
Bombard Akkad.
Bombard a rifleman in Akkad to death. (45-8)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Akkad. (46-8)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Akkad. (47-8)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Akkad. (48-8)
Hittites capture the Babylonian city of Akkad (and the Sistine Chapel). Start on infantry.
Bombard loose troops.
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (49-8)
Bombard London to redline.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at London. (50-8)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at London. (51-8)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at London. (52-8)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at London. (53-8)
Cavalry Army beats cRifle at London. (54-8)
Hittites capture the English city of London (and Pyramids, Magellan's Voyage,3208 gold). Start on artillery.
"We have destroyed the Glorious English".
Found Yalburt. Start on infantry.
Found Katna. Start on infantry.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Nineveh. (55-8)
Hittites capture the Babylonian city of Nineveh (and the Great Lighthouse). Start on worker.
eCavalry beats vLongbow. (56-8)
eCavalry beats rLongbow. (57-8)
eCavalry beats vRifle. (58-8)
eFrigate beats vFrigate. (59-8)
vCavalry beats vGuerilla. Promotes to elite. (60-8)
eCavalry beats rRifle. (61-8)
vInfantry beats rRifle. (62-8)
rDestroyer beats vGalleon. (63-8)
eDestroyer loses to vIronclad. (63-9)
vDestroyer beats vIronclad. (64-9)

IT:

Egyptians pick off a number of workers with cavalry. They destroy Katna and steal 33 gold. vIronclad beats eFrigate. (64-10)

1570 AD (4):

Rat26 Infantry -> Infantry
Fustat Infantry -> Bomber
Aden Bomber -> Bomber
IronMine Infantry -> Infantry
Kadesh Infantry -> Infantry
New Yalburt Bomber -> Bomber
Found Kultepe. Start on worker.
Found Alisar Huyuk. Start on worker.
Science rate to 60 percent. (Motorized Transportation in 1)

Bombard Ashur to redline defenders (with artillery).
vCavalry loses to rRifle at Ashur. (64-11)
vCavalry beats rRifle at Ashur. (65-11)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Ashur. (66-11)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Ashur. (67-11)
Cavalry Army beats rLongbow at Ashur. (68-11)
Hittites capture the Babylonian city of Ashur. Start on Infantry.
Bombard loose troops.
Bombard Samarra to redline defenders (with destroyers).
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Samarra. (69-11)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Samarra. (70-11)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Samarra. (71-11)
Cavalry Army beats rLongbow at Samarra. (72-11)
Hittites raze the Babylonian city of Samarra.
"We have destroyed the Glorious Babylonians".
Bombard Hieraconpolis (with bombers).
Bombard rRifle at Hieraconpolis to death. (73-11)
Cavalry Army beats vCavalry at Hieraconpolis. (74-11)
eInfantry beats vCavalry. (75-11)
vCavalry retreats against our eInfantry attack.
eCavalry beats vCavalry. Produce a GL. (76-11)
Turn the leader into an army at Babylon.
Load cavalry into the army.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Hieraconpolis. (77-11)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Hieraconpolis. (78-11)
Hittites capture the Egyptian city of Hieraconpolis (and gain 207 gold).
eCavalry loses to vCavalry. (78-12)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (79-12)
eCavalry loses to vCavalry. (79-13)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (80-13)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (81-13)
vCavalry retreats against our vInfantry attack.
vInfantry beats vCavalry. (82-13)
vIronclad beats vIronclad, and promotes to elite. (83-13)

IT: eDestroyer beats vIronclad. (84-13) Many Egyptian troops come. Lose a couple artillery to an Egyptian cavalry.

(continued in next post)

 

[Elear]

1575 AD (5): Motorized Transportation comes in. Start on Medicine at minimum. (In 5 turns: +449 GPT). Resistance in Ashur, Ellipi, Akkad, Hieraconpolis ends. Hieraconpolis riots.

Kummanni Bomber -> Tank.
Kultepe Artillery -> Bomber.
Basra Courthouse -> Bomber.
NW Front Bomber -> Tank.

Rat 26, IronMine, Ankuwa, Kadesh, Mansura, Aden, Hubishna, Fustat, Silk City, New Yalburt, Mecca, Hattusas, Hattusha, Horsietown, Segras, South's End, Incense, Adana switch to tanks.

Buy Army for 1246 gold in Najran.
Buy Tank for 208 gold in Adana.
Buy Tank for 248 gold in Hattusha.
Buy Tank for 268 gold in Segras.
Buy Tank for 228 gold in Rat26.
Buy Tank for 232 gold in IronMine.
Buy Tank for 288 gold in Ankuwa.
Buy Tank for 208 gold in Horsietown.
Buy Tank for 232 gold in Mansura.
Buy Tank for 323 gold in Fustat.
Buy Tank for 80 gold in Silk City.
Buy Tank for 176 gold in Mecca.
Buy Tank for 144 gold in South's End.
Buy Tank for 200 gold in Hattusas.
Buy Tank for 332 gold in Aden.
Buy Tank for 252 gold in Kadesh.
Buy Airport in Sword Beach for 585 gold.
Buy Airport in Mansura for 340 gold.
Found Tarsus. Start on worker.
Found Harran. Start on worker.

Bombard loose troops.
eInfantry beats vCavalry. (85-13)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle. (86-13)
Bombard rGuerilla to death. (87-13)
Bombard rGuerilla to death. (88-13)
Bombard rGuerilla to death. (89-13)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (90-13)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (91-13)
Bombard vRifle to death. (92-13)

IT: Various troops on the move towards the front line. vFrigate loses to our vTransport. vCavalry beats our vInfantry. (93-14)

1580 AD (6):

Najran Army -> Army.
Adana Tank -> Tank.
Hattusha Tank -> Tank.
Segras Tank -> Tank.
Rat26 Tank -> Tank.
IronMine Tank -> Tank.
Ankuwa Tank -> Tank.
Horsietown Tank -> Tank.
Mansura Tank -> Tank.
Fustat Tank -> Tank.
Silk City Tank -> Tank.
Mecca Tank -> Tank.
South's End Tank -> Tank.
Hattusas Tank -> Tank.
Aden Tank -> Tank.
Kadesh Tank -> Tank.
Sword Beach Airport -> Worker.
Mansura Airport -> Tank.
Found Tyrana. Start on worker.
Found Alaca Huyuk. Start on worker.
Start airlifting some tanks over to the battlegrounds.

Bombard Tabriz to redline.
Cavalry Army beats vRifle. (94-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle. (95-14)
Cavalry Army beats vLongbow. (96-14)
Hittites capture the Mongol city of Tabriz. Start on worker.
Bombard loose toops.
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (97-14)
Bombard vRifle to death. (98-14)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (99-14)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (100-14)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (101-14)
Bombard vCavalry to death. (102-14)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (103-14)
Decimate Dalandzadgad with bombardment.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Dalandzadgad. (104-14)

IT: Mongols destroy Tyrana. vLongbow loses to our vCavalry. vIronclad loses to our rDestroyer. (106-14)

1585 AD (7):

Machu Picchu Destroyer -> Destroyer
Resistance ends in Tabriz.
Fix a riot in Oka.
Buy Army at Najran for 1432 gold.
Buy Tank at Incense for about 250 gold.
Buy Tank at Mecca for 288 gold.

Bombard Karakorum, Dalandzadgad, Hoyd.
Bombard loose troops.
vCavalry beats vCavalry. It promotes to elite. (107-14)
Bombard rRifle to death at Dalandzadgad. (108-14)
Cavalry Army beats cRifle at Dalandzadgad. (109-14)
Hittites capture the Mongol city of Dalandzadgad. Start on worker.
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Karakorum (110-14)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Karakorum. (111-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Karakorum. (112-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Karakorum. (113-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Karakorum. (114-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Karakorum. (115-14)
Hittites capture the Mongol city of Karakorum. Start on worker.
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Hovd. (116-14)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Hovd. (117-14)
Cavarly Army beats rLongbow at Hovd. (118-14)
Hittites raze the Mongol city of Hovd.
Bombard rRifle to death. (119-14)
Bombard rRifle to death at Almarikh. (120-14)
vCavalry retreats from our attacking eInfantry.
eCavalry beats vCavalry. A GL arises. (121-14)
Form an army with the GL.
Load 4 tanks into that army.
Load 4 tanks into another spare army.
Load 3 tanks into another spare army.
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (122-14)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (123-14)
vInfantry beats vCavalry. (124-14)
Infantry Army beats vGuerilla. Capture enemy artillery. (125-14)

(continued in next post)

 

[Elear]

IT: vLongbow loses to our vCavalry. vGalleon loses to our rDestroyer. vCavalry beats our vCavalry. (127-15) Six resisters quelled in Karakorum.

1590 AD (8):

Najran Army -> Army
Mecca Tank -> Tank
Incense Tank -> Tank

Bombard Almarikh to redline (with destroyers).

Cavalry Army beats rRifle. (128-15)
Hittites capture the Mongol city of Almarikh. Start on worker.
Tank Army beats vRifle at Ta-Tu. (129-15)
Tank Army beats vRifle at Ta-Tu. (130-15)
Bombard rRifle to death at Ta-Tu. (131-15)
Hittites raze the Mongol city of Ta-Tu.
eIronclad loses to vFrigate. (131-16)
vDestroyer beats vFrigate. (132-16)

IT: vCavalry beats our vCavalry. vCavalry loses to our eCavalry. (133-17) Resistance ends in Dalandzadgad.

1595 AD (9):

Rat26 Tank -> Tank.
Tiwanaku Settler -> Harbor.
GLib Tank -> Tank.
Huamanga Artillery -> Artillery.
IronMine Tank -> Tank.
Kadesh Tank -> Tank.
Hubishna Tank -> Tank.
Buy Army for 1432 gold at Najran.
Found Emar. Start on worker.

Bombard loose troops.
vCavalry beats vGuerilla. It promotes to Elite. Capture an artillery. (134-17)
Bombard Giza, Memphis, Kazan.
vCavalry beats vRifle at Giza. (135-17)
eCavalry loses to vGuerilla at Giza. (135-18)
vCavalry retreats to vGuerilla at Giza.
eCavalry beats vGuerilla at Giza. (136-18)
Tank Army beats vGuerilla at Giza. (137-18)
Tank Army beats vCavalry at Giza. (138-18)
Cavalry Army beats vCavalry at Giza. (139-19)
Cavarly Army beats vCavalry at Giza. (140-18)
Mixed 4 unit Knight/Cavalry army loses to vRifle at Kazan. (140-23)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Kazan. (141-23)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Memphis. (142-23)
Load 4 tanks into an empty army.
vDestroyer loses to vIronclad. (142-24)
eDestroyer beats vIronclad. (143-24)
rTank retreats to vRifle at Abydos.
vInfantry loses to vRifle at Abydos. (143-25)
vInfantry beats vRifle at Abydos. (144-25)
vCavalry retreats to vRifle at Abydos.
vInfantry beats vRifle at Abydos. (145-25)
vInfantry loses to vRifle at Abydos. (145-26)
vMDI loses to vCavalry at Abydos. (145-27)
vKnight beats vCavalry at Abydos. (146-27)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Kazan. (147-27)
Cavalry Army beats eRifle at Kazan. (148-27)
Hittites raze the Mongol city of Kazan.
eInfantry beats vCavalry. (149-27)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Thebes. (150-27)

IT: vIronclad beats our rDestroyer. rDestroyer beats our vDestroyer. (150-29) Egypt captures some loose artilleries with their cavalry. Resistance ends in Almarikh. 3 resisters quelled in Karakorum.

1600 AD (10):

Medicine in. Start on Scientific Method (still at minimum).
Najran Army -> Army.
Karatepe Settler -> Settler.

Sink vDestroyer at Heliopolis with a bomber. (151-29)
Bombard Heliopolis, Thebes, Memphis, Abydos.
vInfantry loses to vRifle at Abydos. (151-30)
vKnight loses to vCavalry at Abydos. (151-31)
rTank loses to vCavalry at Abydos. (151-32)
vInfantry loses to eCavalry at Abydos. (151-33)
vCavalry loses to eCavalry at Abydos. (151-33)
Cavalry Army beats vGuerilla at Heliopolis. (152-33)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Heliopolis. (153-33)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Heliopolis. (154-33)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Heliopolis. (155-33)
Hittites capture the Egyptian city of Heliopolis (and 146 gold, Smith's).
Abandon Squeeze and Andahuaylas.
eCavalry beats vRifle at Memphis. (156-33)
eCavalry beats vRifle at Memphis. (157-33)
Cavalry Army beats cRifle at Memphis. (158-33)
Hittites capture the Egyptian city of Memphis (and 229 gold).
vTank beats vRifle at El-Amarna. (159-33)
vTank beats vRifle at El-Amarna. (160-33)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at El-Amarna. (161-33)
Hittites raze the Egyptian city of El-Amarna.
vCavalry beats vCavalry. (162-33)
Bombard vRifle to death. (163-33)
eInfantry beats vCavalry. Capture an Artillery. (164-33)
eCavalry beats vCavalry. (165-33)
Tank Army beats vRifle at Alexandria. (166-33)
Bombard rRifle to death at Thebes. (167-33)
Bombard cRifle to death at Thebes. (168-33)
Bombard rRifle to death at Thebes. (169-33)
Tank Army beats vRifle at Thebes. (170-33)
Tank Army beats vCavalry at Thebes. (171-33)
eCavalry beats cRifle at Thebes. (172-33)
Cavalry Army beats rRifle at Thebes. (173-33)
Cavalry Army beats vRifle at Thebes. (174-33)
Hittites capture the Egyptian city of Thebes (and 162 gold, Knights Templar, Hanging Gardens, Sun Tzu's, Bach's, Copernicus'). Start on Infantry.
Abandon Tarsals.

Post-turn notes: It should be pretty clear how to win from here. Great job to the last few players for setting up the steamroll. I am once again sorry for being such a hold-up in the latter part of this SG. However, it has been a fun game, and it was good playing with you all.

Finish this up!

The save:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/104555/Rat26_AD1600.SAV

Mini-map:

Screenshot of the Egyptian war zone:

Spoiler :

 

[Greebley]

A good turn, I was thinking this game was near the end.

ThERat, I was thinking of a variant that might be fun to try (not well suited to the bigger maps, so not a GR game).

1BC AW(M or E) - One built city AW(M or E) - essentially the opposite of genocide - we can never build a settler - all towns would be captured. I think it would be a difficult variant and one might want to choose a civ with a early speed 2 UU. Probably AWM would be better to start. Hardest part might be surviving the beginning part.

Anyway, I thought I would mention it if you wanted to try it for the next game.

 

[TheOverseer714]

There is a one BC going right now, "Hammy builds a house". It has been a quite interesting SG to read. While not AW, it has been very war-like.

 

[ThERat]

great progress Elear, this might not las many more turns

el filet, it's all yours to finish

I like the idea of OBC, however, the starting part will be very tough. Unit support will be crazy and you need to be lucky to get someone nearby. Which Civ would be suitable for that?

 

[Elear]

Greeks would be the age-old choice. Hittites were creative in this game, but at a certain point, creative doesn't matter much anymore if you can't pull off the win.

 

[Greebley]

I think I would go for strong offense so we can take cities early. Another age-old choice would be good - Persia with the early attack 4.

The celts might be another choice or some other civ with speed 2 units since cities will not be distance 3 apart.

 

[el_filet]

i got it.

suspect continent will fall during my turnset. will probably look for islands and prepare shipping on northern island (if not done already, wasn't as thorough with the log as usual ).


like the idea of an ocb aw. from the civs mentioned i like celts most. zulus might be a good idea with fast defenders, but celts are still my first choice.