Recommend me a computer!

Originally posted by Ankka
Who'd want a M$ product? Buy a mac, you'll get a much better comp with the same money...
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I hope I am not being repetitive here, but Macs just cannot play all the same games that PC's can. I agree, M$ $ucks, Macs are MUCH better, but they cannot play all the games that PCs can, and besides more people own PCs , which make them more convenient . . .
 
I agree on the games part.

But PC's more convenient? What the ****?!? I say, there are thousands, even millions of viruses for PC. None for OS X. What's convenient now?
 
Viruses are written for majority, not for up to 5% of users. Whoever says Windows is bad, needs to master Windows first, then I take their word.
 
Dell machines(and all the large computer makers - HP, eMachines, Gateway, ect) are full of propeitary parts,and in general are poorly constructed. For a decent one you will pay a couple hundred more than one you build yourself. And if you don't want to build it yourself, you can still get it built cheaper at a local computer store, and out of better parts too.
 
Originally posted by Ankka
I agree on the games part.

But PC's more convenient? What the ****?!? I say, there are thousands, even millions of viruses for PC. None for OS X. What's convenient now?
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I mean conveniece as if If I burn a CD for a PC friend, no problem, but if I burn a CD for a Mac friend, then they often cannot load the information onto their computer, and it is a pain. Occaisionally, they can, but usually, they cannot. VERY inconvenient.

More viruses for PCs, but also more programs to help stop the viruses also . . .

2 way road, my friend . . .

And do NOT go Dell, stay away from the Big pre-builds, as has been stated here. Get yours built, trust me, my parents bought a Compaq, and my oldish Oct. '02, which should be a tich slower, is actually a fair bit faster, cause it was built with the piece i selected (this is comparing with equal amounts of RAM). Build it, bon't buy pre-build.
 
What I'd recommend is the following:
AMD Athlon 2800+ or Pentium 4 2.8ghz (it's always a holy war between the fans of the two brands)
A good reliable motherboard (Asus is the only one I trust)
2X512 megs of RAM
120 or 160 gb hard disk (it depends on the price difference)
A really good monitor: you'll find yourself changing your computer every 2 to 4 years and about the only piece of equipment that you'll keep is your monitor, do yourself a favor and buy something good! Samsung, Sony and Mitsubishi are brands you can't go wrong with, they're a bit more expensive than some El Cheapo brands on the market but you'll notice the difference!
A DVD burner (it's so cheap nowadays...)
An Antec or Lian Li case (Standard cases are a real pain in the ass to work with as they have sharp edges that will make sure you cut yourself when playing inside the computer and they're not as efficient as the reputable brands for airflow (cooling of your computer) and quality...

You won't end up paying too much and the money you just saved could be spent on upgrading sooner. Besides, the cost is exponentional when you look at the performance and what's bottom line now is what was top of the line only 8 months ago, shelving the big bucks won't give you a better system in the long run, it may extend its life by a couple of months that's all...

Of course it's a matter of personal preference but you'll be glad in a year that you don't have spent too much on an obsolete piece of equipment...
 
if you want to play games, get a decent graphic-card. don't fall for the low cost card like radeon 9200 or regular 9600 or nvidia fx5200

get at least a 9600xt or better still get a 9800 (or if you can still buy the older 9700pro do it)
 
Originally posted by RealGoober

I mean conveniece as if If I burn a CD for a PC friend, no problem, but if I burn a CD for a Mac friend, then they often cannot load the information onto their computer, and it is a pain. Occaisionally, they can, but usually, they cannot. VERY inconvenient.
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I remember once I had a tech support call from "education something department boss" (i can't translate it to english) that his PC won't read a CD. He got it from local newspaper and it was supposed to have pictures in it. So I tried but no. Then I called to the newspaper and asked with what the CD was burned. MAC. Ofcourse it didn't occur to them that we didn't have a single MAC in our office...:goodjob:
 
Yeah... if you're gonna go with brands, Dell and Alienware are both good. I rteccomend custom-building, just lets you have more options, plus, if you do it yourself, you save money on labour...

I've always been an Intel person myself, so I'd reccomend a 2.8 Ghz or better processor, with HT of course...
Corsair RAM is awesome...
ATI 9600 Pro or XT willl do the trick for 99.9% of today's games, if you want to be prepared for the future, get a 9800 XT/ Pro...

ASUS Motherboards are good for custom-building and o/cing...

WesternDigital HardDrives are awesome...
WinXP is probalby the best Windows out there ATM, 2K isn't bad either though...
For sound, I'd reccomend and Audigy 2ZS sound card, and if you're going with speakers Creative's are good in the lower price range, if youve got mopney to burn, Klipsch is awesome...

I think that just about covers it...
 
If I were to build a cost effective PC from scratch I would use the following:

AMD Barton 2500+
ASUS NF7 (Nforce 2 M/board with raid/net/sound/fiwi/SATA
1Gb twinmos mem
Maxtor 120GB SATA HDD
Coolermaster Aluminium case
Enermax PSU
Papst case Fans
Aero 7+ cooler or Jet if I was going to clock above 3000

Vid card and optical drives could be anything.
For gaming I'd prolly go ATI now despite the rubbish drivers, but if I was going to use professional graphics packages or CAD then an NVIDIA graphics card is needed as the ATI drivers will fall over.

Completely agree with other posters, that long term you are much better off building your own PC.

Don't be frightened of spending a few quid on a decent case and PSU

I'd use WinXP home for the OS, though I actually dual boot with Linux.

EDIT: If you are a serious Gamer then you won't want an LCD monitor. Buy a decent CRT.
 
Enermax is too noisy, try get one of those 120 mm fan PSUs. Pabst is great, very silent.

I have a Lian Li aluminium case myself, really nice.

Edit: review with pics available at DansDataLianLi Pc60 reviewed at DansData

That's just one of their (older) cases, the got lots of other models.
 
For Hard Drives:

A WD Raptor is a really good drive for gaming and for loading huge files, since it has a 10K RPM... I bought one for my new custom-built computer a while ago and its pretty carned good, only 37 GB of space though I think they have a 100 GB model out now... not sure though.


EDIT:

As for Macs....

It was specifcally stated that this computer is meant (sp?) for gaming, MAcs, while powerful, efficient and stable, are not gaming machines. Please take Mac (vs. PC) discussions elsewhere,

Thank you. :)
 
Well, I got it!
I don't know all the little details but IIRC it's a pentium 4 2.8 GhZ
160 gb hard drive
a crap load of RAM (2x512mb I think)
a bunch of other stuff I can't remember

It cost somewhere around $3k or so, I think most of the money was from the moniter and the speaker system

I basically asked some people for the names of some custom computer places that can be trusted, and went into one, and told them to make the best comp they could using parts over 1 month old (because I figured that would make it so I didn't end up spending a huge amount of money on something that would quickly become obsolete) It's really nice, and it has a ginormous monitor and surround sound. I have it in my room, I just need to get my dad to call the cable guy and get him to install the internet on it.

Is there any way to hook a computer up to a TV? Because I want to put a gigantic flat panel TV above my bed on the ceiling so I can watch movies and surf the net from my bed.
 
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