Red Army Man

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In my mind, cossacks are always associated with Ukraine, Bogdan Hmelnitsky, and other hetmans (leaders). Why then does Russia have it as a unique unit? There were cossacks in Russia, but they did not play such an important role in history as the Ukrainian cossacks did.
I think that Russia's unique unit should be Red Army Man with a pointy hat (rifleman with a higher attack?). They were the Soviet soldiers, but the Soviet Union was dominated by Russia, wasn't it?

Any comments?
 
Because Russia has cossacks of their own as well. So did Poland, Lithuania, and so on (when they were still nations of their own). Russian cossacks lasted until the end of the serfdom in 1868. They were the knights of Russia and Ukraine and the northeastern Slavic nations. So cossacks as Russian are correct, as are you about the Ukraine.

I should know. I come from a line of Ukrainian and Russian cossacks.
 
I agree with yankee...
I think that the red army should be infantry, not rifleman...
 
This discussion is largely pointless, because in the game 'Russia' encompasses The Ukraine anyway, along with most of what was The Russian Empire. if we are to go by the cities, at any rate, which include Minsk, Kiev, etc.
 
Whether it is the Cossack or a Rifleman of some type, if you look back onto history for what Russian is most famous for from a historical perspecitive...it is more their defensive tenacity than offensive. Therefore, I think a UU with a higher defense than usual is more appropriate than a higher offense.
 
But then again, at the age of the cossacks (which was several hundred years) Russia went from some nothing nation that was Moscow and just the surrounding area and expanded it to what it became as the Russian Empire. They had to battle former Mongol states, Turkish states, other Slavic states, and also when they fought that war with Sweden during Peter the Great's era, Sweden was a serious military power, but Russia went on the offensive to secure some coastline along the Baltic.

Same goes for the Crimean War and really every time Russia tried to secure the Crimean peninsula.

I think the higher offense is warranted.
 
Originally posted by SirJethro
Whether it is the Cossack or a Rifleman of some type, if you look back onto history for what Russian is most famous for from a historical perspecitive...it is more their defensive tenacity than offensive. Therefore, I think a UU with a higher defense than usual is more appropriate than a higher offense.

Errrmm, excuse me?

Russia, evolving from Muscowy, has probably been one of the most expansionist nations in history.
 
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