Chazbagel
Prince
What is the affect of religion going to have on religious civs in civ 4? Im just wondering because some kind of advantage is going to have to come from that. And will there be religious leaders? ( like military/science leaders )
Religious Civs In CIV IV
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Chazbagel
Prince
Priests? Would they work as like an entertainer/tax collector, etc?
Aussie_Lurker
Deity
OK, a few benefits that religious civs should gain:
1) cheaper religious improvements, just as in civ3.
2) Greater resistance to conversion by outside faiths.
3) More rapid 'discovery' of new belief systems.
4) More likelihood of a new belief system or sect 'appearing' amongst a section of your community (which is both a blessing and a curse, depending on how you look at it).
5) Greater chance of religious great leaders appearing in your civ.
This would be offset by certain restrictions:
1) Your Theism level can not be below a certain level. This impacts on the influence of your religious faction, and makes relations with civs of other faiths more difficult, AND can limit your science output.
2) Greater Risk of suffering from Religious Schisms, assuming you have different sects or relgions within your nation-and that they are a big enough grouping within your nation.
Note, though, that I believe in evolving traits. Within this, it might be possible for a religious civ to shed its religious trait if it abandons religion-within its gameplay style-and favours a different trait, for a sufficient length of time.
Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
1) cheaper religious improvements, just as in civ3.
2) Greater resistance to conversion by outside faiths.
3) More rapid 'discovery' of new belief systems.
4) More likelihood of a new belief system or sect 'appearing' amongst a section of your community (which is both a blessing and a curse, depending on how you look at it).
5) Greater chance of religious great leaders appearing in your civ.
This would be offset by certain restrictions:
1) Your Theism level can not be below a certain level. This impacts on the influence of your religious faction, and makes relations with civs of other faiths more difficult, AND can limit your science output.
2) Greater Risk of suffering from Religious Schisms, assuming you have different sects or relgions within your nation-and that they are a big enough grouping within your nation.
Note, though, that I believe in evolving traits. Within this, it might be possible for a religious civ to shed its religious trait if it abandons religion-within its gameplay style-and favours a different trait, for a sufficient length of time.
Yours,
Aussie_Lurker.
dh_epic
Cold War Veteran
Of course, these things assume that you can have multiple religions in the same civ, let alone the same city. Factionalism, as it might be called. I hope there are more factions in a Civ than just religion-versus-religion.
It also assumes that there are benefits to converting other civilizations to your religion, and disadvantages to being converted to a different religion. It would also assume that, paradoxically, being converted to religion "B" would be bad, but further converting other religions to religion "B" would be good. Is this even possible?
It also assumes that you can't just randomly change religion at will, otherwise being converted would be meaningless.
It also assumes that there are benefits to converting other civilizations to your religion, and disadvantages to being converted to a different religion. It would also assume that, paradoxically, being converted to religion "B" would be bad, but further converting other religions to religion "B" would be good. Is this even possible?
It also assumes that you can't just randomly change religion at will, otherwise being converted would be meaningless.
Chazbagel
Prince
You should be able to preserve your religion. Like if you have a Fascist or Communist government, you choose the religion, and if a citizen breaks that religion the cops kill them.
Grand Cadfael
Freedom fighter
If they do put religious leaders in they should be able to rush convert an entire civ(everyones a musilm now)
flamescreen
Ancient Mariner
Depending on how people feel about their government, religion, way of life, faith to the system, financial condition etc though in real world. Prob too much MM in game. If they could make it work, I'm all for it. Possibly with a variation of the culture model.
crimson238
War Correspondent
I'd see it, as flamescreen does, as a variation on culture. I'd think that the similarities between your religon and that of those around you leads towards harmony beytween the too, quicker assimilations ect... FUrhter, I doubt they'll really do hard religons.. i.e. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism ect.. More so, I'd see it as an abstract.. Monotheistic, Polythiestic, Athistic, Philisophic (Buddhism/Taoism/Confucinism). The other interesting thing to remember is that a lot of polythiestic religons are really monothisitic. I.e. Hinduism is really a monothiems; the dieties thereof are different aspects of Brakman (sorry for spelling.)
